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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2020, 10:31:19 PM »
Don't shoot it...just my  :twocents:

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2020, 10:36:48 PM »
um aint they federally protected and subject to federal law which is basically unspoken compared to state law?

gotta taste good if theyre protected.....
I've had trumpeter swan from Utah a few years ago, it was fantastic. The meat was very pale, like cougar. A friend applied for a permit and drew one of the few that year. I think they still have a hunt for them?
You probably had tundra swan?


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At that meeting we were told it was more likely we would get a swan season than a second bag limit for Mergansers... (both were low so he said)

Yeah, swans won't happen as they are way to difficult to tell apart and there are obviously a ton of trumpeters in WA.  Someday if they are delisted and other states open seasons, maybe, but certainly not before then.  I wouldn't be comfortable trying to tell them apart, but would like to go to a state that has tundra but not trumpeter and hunt them on a guided trip, along with sandhills.

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2020, 05:00:57 AM »
Seasons open for both in Montana.

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2020, 05:05:53 AM »
Swans too!

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2020, 05:08:42 AM »
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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2020, 05:10:15 AM »
Sandhill

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2020, 05:21:15 AM »
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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2020, 09:00:30 AM »
That sandhill looks kike something straight out of Jurassic Park

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2020, 09:42:29 AM »
Their really cool watching them dancing .

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2020, 10:21:06 AM »
Swans Are Protected by federal and state laws and are closed to harvest
Swan, Tundra or Trumpeter
(White adult, gray juvenile, Protected Species)

This is from the regs.

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2020, 11:17:51 AM »
Three Westerns states — Montana, Utah and Nevada — allow tundra swan hunting, and Idaho is considering a hunt in its Panhandle counties.Dec 29, 2019

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2020, 02:18:19 PM »
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2005/01/04/05-55/draft-list-of-bird-species-to-which-the-migratory-bird-treaty-act-does-not-apply

https://portal.ct.gov/DEEP/Wildlife/Fact-Sheets/Mute-Swan#:~:text=Because%20the%20mute%20swan%20is,range%20to%20actively%20manage%20populations.

Because the mute swan is an exotic species, it is not protected under the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1916, making it possible for states throughout this bird's North American range to actively manage populations.

There is nothing in the WA regs specifically about mute swans
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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2020, 03:44:37 PM »
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2005/01/04/05-55/draft-list-of-bird-species-to-which-the-migratory-bird-treaty-act-does-not-apply

https://portal.ct.gov/DEEP/Wildlife/Fact-Sheets/Mute-Swan#:~:text=Because%20the%20mute%20swan%20is,range%20to%20actively%20manage%20populations.

Because the mute swan is an exotic species, it is not protected under the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1916, making it possible for states throughout this bird's North American range to actively manage populations.

There is nothing in the WA regs specifically about mute swans
Ok so lead the way, go shoot one and post up some pics... 

All i can do is relay what the waterfowl section MGR told us at a Washington Waterfowl Association NW chapter meeting.

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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2020, 05:50:40 PM »
Depending on the warden, you could get a ticket citing the WAC referencing violation of a department rule then ironically it is up to you to prove no such rule exists.


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Re: Mute Swan
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2020, 08:20:35 PM »
I was taught at a very young age what to shoot if it was white (snow geese) anything else was just to enjoy their flight and sounds. Not going to weigh in on if it is legal or not...I was simply taught that it wasn't, simple as that. The fight you would face probably isn't worth the meal or mount. I would like to travel somewhere where it is cut and dry and harvest a big white someday though  :tup:

 


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