Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?

[millerwheeler]

A 1X scope would really help my old eyes. 

It's frustrating trying to shoot iron sights these days. 

In my case, what was easy to see 10 years ago is now a blur.  I simply cant focus on sights AND target.   

I get both sides, but in my case I'd put a 1X scope on asap when legal.

This is what i heard was the reasoning. I belive something similar came up for bow hunters... something about how all you guys are getting old and need cheater and such to see.

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It’s called aging out unfortunately happens to all of us SUCK  IT UP

[Ghost Hunter]

I asked to change to 2x since I can't find the 1x.    

[Tenkara]

It was literally the only thing I commented on...but I reckon you crybabies will get your way. I want it to be easier

Your the only one that's been crying about anything.

[Mtnwalker]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

[millerwheeler]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

[trophyhunt]

I just hope the change will result in less wounded, unfound animals. The other change might just be better I’m my opinion, allowing cross bows during Muzzy season, the high end xbows are really accurate.  Wonder if you can put a 1x scope on a cross bow?

[Ghost Hunter]

I just hope the change will result in less wounded, unfound animals. The other change might just be better I’m my opinion, allowing cross bows during Muzzy season, the high end xbows are really accurate.  Wonder if you can put a 1x scope on a cross bow?

Hard to find a xbow without a scope.  Try to find one with 1x.  Most start at 2x. 

[Dan-o]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

LOL

So, if someone wants a different rule than you want, they dont care about the resource. 

Your ability to jump to a conclusion is entertaining.

[BreezyBear]

Well said Dan-O 

[millerwheeler]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

LOL

So, if someone wants a different rule than you want, they dont care about the resource. 

Your ability to jump to a conclusion is entertaining.

It’s not jumping to a conclusion it’s pretty clear that a lot of people think for the now and not for the future, and the scope  situation is very clear a scope makes it a modern weapon  no if ands or butts about it and some people seam to say poor me  my vision , this or that look we will all age out eventually but because they can’t except that they want to change. Rules for there benefit knowing it will affect muzzle season  in many ways . This also isn’t our biggest issue at hand but yes it’s very clear A lot of people don’t think about the resource and or the way each rule change affects that

[10thmountainarcher]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

LOL

So, if someone wants a different rule than you want, they dont care about the resource. 

Your ability to jump to a conclusion is entertaining.

It’s not jumping to a conclusion it’s pretty clear that a lot of people think for the now and not for the future, and the scope  situation is very clear a scope makes it a modern weapon  no if ands or butts about it and some people seam to say poor me  my vision , this or that look we will all age out eventually but because they can’t except that they want to change. Rules for there benefit knowing it will affect muzzle season  in many ways . This also isn’t our biggest issue at hand but yes it’s very clear A lot of people don’t think about the resource and or the way each rule change affects that

The first telescopic scope was made in 1776, and successfully implemented in the 1830s according to google. Not sure adding one to a muzzleloader will automatically qualify it as a modern firearm. The resource isn’t going to be depleted by adding a fixed 1X scope to a muzzleloader. Predators are doing a much better job at that then hunters ever will. In 2018 27k deer were killed by hunters. The state has an estimated 3k cougars that average one deer kill a week. That would equate to over 150k deer killed by just cougars, and we all know the 3k estimate is low!

Edit: I guess there are 2k adult cougars per their estimate in 2018, so I guess only 100k deaths at the hands of a cat.

[millerwheeler]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

LOL

So, if someone wants a different rule than you want, they dont care about the resource. 

Your ability to jump to a conclusion is entertaining.

It’s not jumping to a conclusion it’s pretty clear that a lot of people think for the now and not for the future, and the scope  situation is very clear a scope makes it a modern weapon  no if ands or butts about it and some people seam to say poor me  my vision , this or that look we will all age out eventually but because they can’t except that they want to change. Rules for there benefit knowing it will affect muzzle season  in many ways . This also isn’t our biggest issue at hand but yes it’s very clear A lot of people don’t think about the resource and or the way each rule change affects that

The first telescopic scope was made in 1776, and successfully implemented in the 1830s according to google. Not sure adding one to a muzzleloader will automatically qualify it as a modern firearm. The resource isn’t going to be depleted by adding a fixed 1X scope to a muzzleloader. Predators are doing a much better job at that then hunters ever will. In 2018 27k deer were killed by hunters. The state has an estimated 3k cougars that average one deer kill a week. That would equate to over 150k deer killed by just cougars, and we all know the 3k estimate is low!

Hence y I said this isn’t our biggest issue well aware of our predator issue ,death by a thousand cuts and it will affect numbers of hunters,harvested ,wounded  for those that think there muzzleloader is now a rifle , they have slowly taken away the tradition of muzzleloading and a scope is just another notch towards a modern rifle that is a fact

[10thmountainarcher]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

LOL

So, if someone wants a different rule than you want, they dont care about the resource. 

Your ability to jump to a conclusion is entertaining.

It’s not jumping to a conclusion it’s pretty clear that a lot of people think for the now and not for the future, and the scope  situation is very clear a scope makes it a modern weapon  no if ands or butts about it and some people seam to say poor me  my vision , this or that look we will all age out eventually but because they can’t except that they want to change. Rules for there benefit knowing it will affect muzzle season  in many ways . This also isn’t our biggest issue at hand but yes it’s very clear A lot of people don’t think about the resource and or the way each rule change affects that

The first telescopic scope was made in 1776, and successfully implemented in the 1830s according to google. Not sure adding one to a muzzleloader will automatically qualify it as a modern firearm. The resource isn’t going to be depleted by adding a fixed 1X scope to a muzzleloader. Predators are doing a much better job at that then hunters ever will. In 2018 27k deer were killed by hunters. The state has an estimated 3k cougars that average one deer kill a week. That would equate to over 150k deer killed by just cougars, and we all know the 3k estimate is low!

Hence y I said this isn’t our biggest issue well aware of our predator issue ,death by a thousand cuts and it will affect numbers of hunters,harvested ,wounded  for those that think there muzzleloader is now a rifle , they have slowly taken away the tradition of muzzleloading and a scope is just another notch towards a modern rifle that is a fact

The same thing could be said for every technological advancement for any of our means of hunting though. I don’t think it will have a profound impact, and I’ll wager there will be less wounding of animals then before. No real way of tracking that unfortunately.

[bigdub257]

Why not apply this to the older generation and people with visual disabilities?  65 and over or apply for a disability permit.

[millerwheeler]

You can definitely tell who is viewing it from the best interest of the resource vs who is viewing it from the best interest of themselves after reading through this thread... hopefully they make the right decision but I’m not holding my breath

 Seams a lot of folks don’t care about the resources anymore only care about themselves

LOL

So, if someone wants a different rule than you want, they dont care about the resource. 

Your ability to jump to a conclusion is entertaining.

It’s not jumping to a conclusion it’s pretty clear that a lot of people think for the now and not for the future, and the scope  situation is very clear a scope makes it a modern weapon  no if ands or butts about it and some people seam to say poor me  my vision , this or that look we will all age out eventually but because they can’t except that they want to change. Rules for there benefit knowing it will affect muzzle season  in many ways . This also isn’t our biggest issue at hand but yes it’s very clear A lot of people don’t think about the resource and or the way each rule change affects that

The first telescopic scope was made in 1776, and successfully implemented in the 1830s according to google. Not sure adding one to a muzzleloader will automatically qualify it as a modern firearm. The resource isn’t going to be depleted by adding a fixed 1X scope to a muzzleloader. Predators are doing a much better job at that then hunters ever will. In 2018 27k deer were killed by hunters. The state has an estimated 3k cougars that average one deer kill a week. That would equate to over 150k deer killed by just cougars, and we all know the 3k estimate is low!

Hence y I said this isn’t our biggest issue well aware of our predator issue ,death by a thousand cuts and it will affect numbers of hunters,harvested ,wounded  for those that think there muzzleloader is now a rifle , they have slowly taken away the tradition of muzzleloading and a scope is just another notch towards a modern rifle that is a fact

The same thing could be said for every technological advancement for any of our means of hunting though. I don’t think it will have a profound impact, and I’ll wager there will be less wounding of animals then before. No real way of tracking that unfortunately.

There has to be a limit on our technology  in my opinion not just with muzzle,I mean with rifle , and bow