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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2021, 09:12:38 AM »
Several years ago it seems like someone on here posted a black fox from way up in the Salmo-Priest Wilderness somewhere. Anyone remember that one?

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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2021, 11:10:11 AM »
In 1976 I saw a jet black fox near Sequim.  It was playing and mousing with a classic red fox in a pasture beside the house and several of us watched them for half an hour.  Someone said that it was a silver fox released or escaped from a fox farm in the area.  I have never seen any kind of fox on the penninsula since.   

In northern BC red foxes come in many shades of color as well as red, with a lot of charcoal grey and black ones that are classed as cross foxes I presume.  If you stop your vehicle on the highway north of Dease Lake, one may come and panhandle you for a handout.  I also saw an all back one near Kelowna.  It crossed the highway a few feet in front of my vehicle so I pulled off and glassed it as it meandered on a sunny frozen lake. 

I think black foxes are far more common than black coyotes.


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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2021, 11:43:48 AM »
Black is a fairly common color of the cascade fox.

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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2021, 11:57:46 AM »
Yeah there was a black fox near Longmire about ten years ago. People were feeding them around there even. I have seen two black coyotes on the North end of the Big Lava Bed and up near the Indian Heaven Wilderness before. In the big dark old growth. This was in about 2003-2005 period. One was playing with a small black bear and they were fighting over a rubber tub used for minerals by the cattle in South Prairie. Probably had some good tasting Kool-aid in it! The other was coming in to the trail near Indian Heaven and Cultus Creek.

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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2021, 05:39:09 AM »
As long as it identified as a coyote, you're good.

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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2021, 07:31:02 AM »
Pretty sure that’s just a color phased coyote.  Not a wolf. Nothing crazy. Just a different coloring. A friend of mine shot one that was almost white a couple weeks ago over by Conconully. I’ll see if I can get his ok to share a pic. It’s super cool. Has blue eyes.
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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2021, 08:02:16 AM »
I've never seen a black yote, nor one that big.

I know they're out there especially back east, wish we could verify for sure what this is.

Wish we had pics of its feet

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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2021, 09:10:28 AM »
We’ve shot coyotes in SE wa that were easily pushing 40lbs They get big down here. A couple friends and I shot these a couple years ago, the one on the far left was absolutely massive, I carried him back to the truck on and without a scale, I can’t prove it but I’d wager he was closer to 50lbs than 40
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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2021, 10:59:47 PM »
Pretty sure that’s just a color phased coyote.  Not a wolf. Nothing crazy. Just a different coloring. A friend of mine shot one that was almost white a couple weeks ago over by Conconully. I’ll see if I can get his ok to share a pic. It’s super cool. Has blue eyes.

I'm gonna need to see pics of this regardless of permission...  :chuckle:

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Re: Melanistic coyote?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2021, 09:46:29 AM »
Wandering on tangent, IME darker colored coyotes have coarser fur and light colored ones much finer  and so softer hairs.  I assume that is why light colored ones bring a higher price at fur sales.

 A partner and I stalked and he shot a near white coyote southwest of Kamloops, BC.  when it was prime in early winter.  It was a female, cream white all over with baby fine hair so thick it would not lay down.  The thick underfur was even finer and had a trace of pink color.  The back was the same white but the tiniest tip of a few guard hairs were black, which made the pelt look like it had a sparse sprinkling of fine black pepper down the center of the back.

I’ve never handled nor seen another coyote fur like it.   In Alberta I saw a near white one along the highway but couldn’t shoot it.

I’ve always wondered what the pelt would have brought at auction.  It was about the peak of coyote prices decades ago.  A collector who wanted to tan or mount it saw it before it was skinned, and my hunting partner took something like $200 (175?) for the unskinned carcass.  His wife demanded a steak dinner from the proceeds, with our wives at the best steakhouse in Kamloops.  Over the meal we decided that maybe the cost of hunting coyotes wiped out any profit. 

 


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