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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2022, 08:07:55 PM »
I run 5 or 6.....or more but don't tell my wife.....NF scopes and love them.  There is a lot of very good advice above my post so I will just post one more thing that has not been mentioned. 


The SHV line of scopes does not have a zero stop.  It has a what they call the "zero set" which I would describe as a "soft" zero stop.  A zero set has a hard stop at your zero.  If you have the zero set...it will allow you to go 1/4 moa past your zero if set correctly.  I own both and have no problem with either....but there is a definite difference.  I also have owned a 4-14 x 56 SHV and it had neither the zero set or zero stop......sold that one. 

I started with the SHV line and absolutely love them for the cost.  They are solid as a rock and I have had no tracking issues.....EVER!!  They are big and they are heavy.  I held a Zeiss a couple weeks ago and like how small it is.  I ordered an NX8 and it is a lot smaller the the SHV.  All have above average glass and are very clear.

As stated above and I will agree 250%.....no way I would buy a scope for long range with a simple duplex reticle.  I hate busy reticles so I think the MOART reticle is a great compromise. 

Good luck and happy hunting....the great news is, you will love whatever you buy.  If you don't, I will buy it off you in a year for half price.   :tup:

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2022, 08:39:09 PM »
I have 4 NF scopes with MOAR(t) reticles.  I like them, they work well for big game hunting.   However, my varmint guns have duplex type reticles.   For high volume running shots, I want my focus point to be the center of the reticle.   So, I can see how a guy would want to stick with a simple reticle.   My duplex scopes have turrets as well and I’ve killed a pile of critters from 600 to 1100 yards dialing elevation and holding windage with a duplex reticle.   

A guy should just shoot what he’s comfortable with because in the field, confidence and feel are king.

I broke in two new varmint guns with V4’s and duplex reticles, yesterday.  The Zeiss version is has a wide fine crosshair which I liked.  Seemed to be pretty nice scopes.  Both guns were dialed in max of 3 rounds.  Tracked perfectly.  They both had capped windage and I thought the windage adjustment was a little cheap feeling, but, it tracked.

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2022, 09:09:15 PM »
thanks everyone for the input. No love for leupold anywhere I look  :chuckle:


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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2022, 10:50:55 PM »
I’ve had good luck with the Leupy Mark 5.   Very sharp, good field of view,  durable turret, 33 oz for 7-35.   Had some issues with the vx6 -  after 500+ rounds with 300  gr lapua.   

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2022, 07:57:41 AM »
thanks everyone for the input. No love for leupold anywhere I look  :chuckle:

 I have 2 VX-5's with duplex and 1 with HTMR. Also a VX6 with a duplex. They all work and track fine, zero stop no issues, great in low light.

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2022, 08:07:04 AM »
thanks everyone for the input. No love for leupold anywhere I look  :chuckle:

Between my sons and myself, we have a total of 8 Leupold scopes.  I've been a fan of Leupold for over 40 years.......and never been sorry.  They have one of the better warranties, should you ever need one.  I have returned two over the years for warranty work, and been very happy.  Lots of manufacturers claim to have great warranties, until you need them.
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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2022, 08:21:36 AM »
I have a VX5 on my rifle and have been pretty happy for the price.  I think I paid $650 or so a couple years back.  The image through the glass is great, zero stop is perfect and clicks are ok (could be a bit firmer).  The zoom ring is too hard to operate in my opinion but not a big deal.

It does track a bit to the left as I go out, but only about 1" or so from 100 to 300.  I don't shoot past 400, most of the time in the 2-300 range so it isn't an issue.  It's repeatable and holds a rock solid zero which is the bigger thing for me.  I tried multiple methods to level the crosshairs and am convinced it's the turret not the level.

If I wanted to go beyond 400, it would be an issue and I would need to double the budget (or more) to bump up to the next level of quality or send this one back and hope they can fix it or roll the dice with a new one.  For the price, I didn't expect a scope with quality glass and a rock solid turret.

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2022, 08:28:36 AM »
Its definitely the erector system Stein. Ive done tracking tests on quite a few vx5 and 6's the last few years and every single one starts walking horizontally.

Over on rokslide there is a member who is doing very in depth testing of scopes. Its definitely worth jumping over there and doing a deep dive. Lota of scopes still to come.  He isn't biased and he doesn't pull punches.

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That link takes you to a main page. I recommend reading the green link about how the tests are conducted and then below that link are the seperate scope evals.
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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2022, 08:37:03 AM »
Its definitely the erector system Stein. Ive done tracking tests on quite a few vx5 and 6's the last few years and every single one starts walking horizontally.

Over on rokslide there is a member who is doing very in depth testing of scopes. Its definitely worth jumping over there and doing a deep dive. Lota of scopes still to come.  He isn't biased and he doesn't pull punches.

https://www.rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/

That link takes you to a main page. I recommend reading the green link about how the tests are conducted and then below that link are the seperate scope evals.

How much walk are we talking here typically? I have a 6 that I just got back from Leupold and I still think its doing funny things...

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2022, 08:45:45 AM »
The last vx6 I did was just like Stein observed.  Didnt show till about 4 MOA but by 20 MOA it had walked 2.5 MOA.
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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2022, 08:57:16 AM »
The last vx6 I did was just like Stein observed.  Didnt show till about 4 MOA but by 20 MOA it had walked 2.5 MOA.

Sounds about right... 2 @ 14.5

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2022, 09:05:47 AM »
The last vx6 I did was just like Stein observed.  Didnt show till about 4 MOA but by 20 MOA it had walked 2.5 MOA.

Sounds about right... 2 @ 14.5
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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2022, 10:41:59 AM »
Its definitely the erector system Stein. Ive done tracking tests on quite a few vx5 and 6's the last few years and every single one starts walking horizontally.

Over on rokslide there is a member who is doing very in depth testing of scopes. Its definitely worth jumping over there and doing a deep dive. Lota of scopes still to come.  He isn't biased and he doesn't pull punches.

https://www.rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/

That link takes you to a main page. I recommend reading the green link about how the tests are conducted and then below that link are the seperate scope evals.

Thanks, good info.

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2022, 01:10:08 PM »
My vx6 turret got erratic for awhile then froze.  sent in, got back was better then now ready to go back again.  switched to Mark 5 and no issues.   

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Re: which glass is best
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2022, 03:41:21 PM »
The last vx6 I did was just like Stein observed.  Didnt show till about 4 MOA but by 20 MOA it had walked 2.5 MOA.

On my rifle 20 MOA is about 800 yards. Are you saying the vx6 will be off by 20 inches to the left or right? That seems like a non-starter for anybody actually trying to shoot that far.
 
For you guys that own the NF NX-8, how much time do you spend messing with the parallax adjustment to get the parallax out? It doesn’t have yardage printed on the turret like the Leupolds do. Is it fairly obvious that the target is in focus or do you still have to move your head around to make sure the reticle isn't moving around?     

 


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