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I predict 5 will be killed by mt lions. Or wolves2 will be unknown mortality 1 will be hit by a car1 will go back to Canada where it belongs
Copied from the original postOnce an animal was captured, a veterinarian would do a visual examination. Then the animal would be driven over the border into Washington and released at one of the two release sites.I thought it was illegal to release non native wildlife in Washington?
Yup, but Washington is the fringe edge of their range. The fingers that poke down into Washington which hold Lynx doesn't make it a core habitat range.
When I was a kid there were lynx scattered through the Kettle Range, the Selkirks, in the wedge, and in the Okanogan, I remember seeing tracks fairly often when I first started lion hunting, even managed to see two of them through the years, one of them I saw real close when it crossed the road on the summit of the Tacoma Creek Divide. I have not seen a Lynx track in WA for quite a few years now. Trappers got some of them when they could still be trapped, hunting and trapping seasons were closed, but the numbers seemed to continue dropping, they just seemed to disappear. With how overgrown our forests have become I think they have a fair chance of making it now, they are one specie that probably benefits from a lack of forest management.
Quote from: Jingles on March 11, 2022, 12:01:25 PMCopied from the original postOnce an animal was captured, a veterinarian would do a visual examination. Then the animal would be driven over the border into Washington and released at one of the two release sites.I thought it was illegal to release non native wildlife in Washington?But if it's a fish, then nobody wants to move it to a river even five miles away. They have to regenerate naturally. Wolves and lynx and (soon grizz?) get to follow a different philosophy.
Quote from: JimmyHoffa on March 11, 2022, 05:10:38 PMQuote from: Jingles on March 11, 2022, 12:01:25 PMCopied from the original postOnce an animal was captured, a veterinarian would do a visual examination. Then the animal would be driven over the border into Washington and released at one of the two release sites.I thought it was illegal to release non native wildlife in Washington?But if it's a fish, then nobody wants to move it to a river even five miles away. They have to regenerate naturally. Wolves and lynx and (soon grizz?) get to follow a different philosophy.??
This conservation Northwest,these the same group trying to stop spring bear.
I’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves .
Quote from: JakeLand on March 12, 2022, 05:56:58 AMI’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves . Next ... coming to the woods near you...... no bobcat hunting....
Quote from: buckcanyonlodge on March 12, 2022, 01:28:25 PMQuote from: JakeLand on March 12, 2022, 05:56:58 AMI’m not for transplanting any of these predators period , there’s a distinct reason that they’re not here. Started with wolves and how did that work out ? Then Fisher and now Lynx transplant predators changes the whole balance of areas or regions and not for the good I’m seeing it and dealing with it when it comes to the Fisher as you guys are with the wolves . Next ... coming to the woods near you...... no bobcat hunting....They tried to shut down some snowmobile trails already in the Kettle Range, I met with the bio students from I think WSU at the trail head, they wanted to put a GPS tracker on my snowmobile. The young gal was very cute and flirty, I didn't take the bait Later the club found out they were trying to justify closing the area due to lynx recovery.Now the tribe is planting them there, the whole area is up for wilderness designation. That would suck, it's fine as is. This was like 10-12 years ago, the Lynx has long been used as a tool to attempt to close that whole area
We are allowed to hunt black Bear in grizzly bear recovery zone still. As long as we don't shoot any grizz.Lynx recovery zones historically do shutdown ,roads,trails,forest tree harvest and reforestation.The north half......Natives still believe it's part of the reservation and it's not.They only retain hunting rights to it.So honestly to act as If they own it or to try and pull the co-exist stuff is a little far fetched. Saying they are released on the reservation is not true. And like said in my first post,are we throwing native bobcat under the bus. Will lynx kill all the bobcat in the area.I'm not saying I agree with them release lynx,But maybe more research so go into what's there before you just let them go.Honestly I thought natives where on the hunters side with wolves and stuff ,this really shows they are not.I'd be more worried about the natives trying to reclaim some of the North half .All that has to happen is someone accidentally shoots a lynx,natives sue the federal government for not protecting lynx and try to claim a portion of the North half back to the reservation. Then boom ...no more hunting for us.I can deal with gated roads,and walking in to hunt,and some annoying road shutdowns, I would be more worried about natives reclaiming the North half.
Quote from: hunter399 on March 12, 2022, 07:45:48 PMWe are allowed to hunt black Bear in grizzly bear recovery zone still. As long as we don't shoot any grizz.Lynx recovery zones historically do shutdown ,roads,trails,forest tree harvest and reforestation.The north half......Natives still believe it's part of the reservation and it's not.They only retain hunting rights to it.So honestly to act as If they own it or to try and pull the co-exist stuff is a little far fetched. Saying they are released on the reservation is not true. And like said in my first post,are we throwing native bobcat under the bus. Will lynx kill all the bobcat in the area.I'm not saying I agree with them release lynx,But maybe more research so go into what's there before you just let them go.Honestly I thought natives where on the hunters side with wolves and stuff ,this really shows they are not.I'd be more worried about the natives trying to reclaim some of the North half .All that has to happen is someone accidentally shoots a lynx,natives sue the federal government for not protecting lynx and try to claim a portion of the North half back to the reservation. Then boom ...no more hunting for us.I can deal with gated roads,and walking in to hunt,and some annoying road shutdowns, I would be more worried about natives reclaiming the North half.Grizz areas we didn't have a spring bear hunt (irrelevant now)We can't night hunt bobs in lynx recovery areasWe still can't snowmobile in Caribou protection areas even though they've been extinct in WA for a good 4-5 years now Lynx don't kill bobs for the most part, bobs are meaner Fisher do kill lynx
Odd that they state in the article that wildfire is a leading cause in lynx habitat loss considering the colville rez is decimated by wildfire on a nearly yearly basis. 2022 was the summit trail fire of 48k acres, 2019 was the Williams flats fire of over 45k acres, in 2015 the north star fire was over 215k acres. And those are just the big ones.
Quote from: highcountry_hunter on March 12, 2022, 10:22:29 PMOdd that they state in the article that wildfire is a leading cause in lynx habitat loss considering the colville rez is decimated by wildfire on a nearly yearly basis. 2022 was the summit trail fire of 48k acres, 2019 was the Williams flats fire of over 45k acres, in 2015 the north star fire was over 215k acres. And those are just the big ones. Interesting, fire has always been a natural way for nature to "clean up". How is it that a fire is now considered habitat loss?
Quote from: Alchase on March 12, 2022, 11:00:43 PMQuote from: highcountry_hunter on March 12, 2022, 10:22:29 PMOdd that they state in the article that wildfire is a leading cause in lynx habitat loss considering the colville rez is decimated by wildfire on a nearly yearly basis. 2022 was the summit trail fire of 48k acres, 2019 was the Williams flats fire of over 45k acres, in 2015 the north star fire was over 215k acres. And those are just the big ones. Interesting, fire has always been a natural way for nature to "clean up". How is it that a fire is now considered habitat loss? I would only consider it habitat loss for 4-5 year,after that it's better habitat then it was before in most cases.
Quote from: hunter399 on March 13, 2022, 01:40:43 AMQuote from: Alchase on March 12, 2022, 11:00:43 PMQuote from: highcountry_hunter on March 12, 2022, 10:22:29 PMOdd that they state in the article that wildfire is a leading cause in lynx habitat loss considering the colville rez is decimated by wildfire on a nearly yearly basis. 2022 was the summit trail fire of 48k acres, 2019 was the Williams flats fire of over 45k acres, in 2015 the north star fire was over 215k acres. And those are just the big ones. Interesting, fire has always been a natural way for nature to "clean up". How is it that a fire is now considered habitat loss? I would only consider it habitat loss for 4-5 year,after that it's better habitat then it was before in most cases.Its good habitat for many animals even quicker than that! For Lynx who rely on snowshoe hare populations that may take longer, I'm not sure how long before the showshoes move back in heavy, I've never paid attention to that in any of the large fire areas in the Kettle Crest?