STOP KILLING THE BABY MAKERS

[Woodchuck]

Like the OP, I mentioned no names in my posts. If you took it as you, on you.
 
Hard to know without DNA on scat how many critters are taken by predators, but vids of fresh born being eaten, and even being pulled out, is pretty compelling.

Actually it's targeting anyone that harvest's antlerless...
This isn't who killed the last doe in 204. Then point finger's.
This is a general blanket statement covering a broad range of hunter's and huntresses. I'm not offended in the slightest. I'll do me...
Just won't feel the need to share success pics in the future when I know half the forum will probably disapprove of my decisions.

Like allot of threads these days.... creating a ton of division. I just don't get it.

Perfectly stated and my point exactly.

[KFhunter]

It's frustration talking, WDFW refuses to manage appropriately so hunters need to self-police

[Buck Rub Jr]

I was talking to a bio on the phone who works the region I was planning to hunt, I told him I had a second deer tag for the area but wasn’t going to hunt the tag because I was concerned about the deer numbers in the area. He said that with the amount of tags given along with success rates for that hunt that it wouldn’t have any negative effect on the deer population if I harvested a doe and that if I wanted to try and fill the freezer that I should hunt that permit with no guilty conscience at all.

[buckfvr]

Once you're over 65 and wdfw tells your decrepit old ass you can go ahead and kill a doe, it comes across as demeaning.  Several of my friends and I find we share this feeling as we are over 65.

I dont support it in the least.

[Duckslayer89]

I was talking to a bio on the phone who works the region I was planning to hunt, I told him I had a second deer tag for the area but wasn’t going to hunt the tag because I was concerned about the deer numbers in the area. He said that with the amount of tags given along with success rates for that hunt that it wouldn’t have any negative effect on the deer population if I harvested a doe and that if I wanted to try and fill the freezer that I should hunt that permit with no guilty conscience at all.

Look what they have done with the population…. Don’t trust what they say.

[Platensek-po]

Anterless harvest was down to about 2k last year. Previous years was anywhere from 3-7k.

[boneaddict]

The threat of not posting pics on here sorta reminds me of the threat to stop social security, or to ban sports in school. 
Like you said you do you.   

My point is to bring awareness to a problem versus sitting back and watching it completely implode.  Folks are entitled to sit back in the land of unicorns and rainbows, but it isn’t sustainable if something isn’t done.

For those of you putting blind faith into the WDFW, good for you. They must be doing something right, because it’s obvious we are living the glory days right now.   

The harvesting of antlerless is a tool in wildlife management but just like trying to use a 1/2 wrench to hammer in a railroad spike.   If the tool isn’t the right tool for the current job….

[boneaddict]

Anterless harvest was down to about 2k last year. Previous years was anywhere from 3-7k.

I’m curious if that’s because of less animals, less permits, people making different decisions, or all of the above.

[jrebel]

Anterless harvest was down to about 2k last year. Previous years was anywhere from 3-7k.

I’m curious if that’s because of less animals, less permits, people making different decisions, or all of the above.

I can tell you that they took youth OTC youth and Over 65 does away in most of the NE GMU's 3 years ago (maybe 2 years ago....not 100% sure).  This has to have a pretty large impact on the number of does hitting the ground. 

[KFhunter]

The harvesting of antlerless is a tool in wildlife management but just like trying to use a 1/2 wrench to hammer in a railroad spike.   If the tool isn’t the right tool for the current job….

It is if the "job" is to reduce reduce and marginalize hunters with a long term goal of ending hunting.

I can't think of a better way to social engineer an end of such a long held tradition.

[pickardjw]

The majority opinion on the forum here seems to be that the WDFW mismanages all of our wildlife. But suddenly, because the WDFW is issuing tags for does/cows that must mean that it's a sustainable practice? Just an observation.

[furbearer365]

The majority opinion on the forum here seems to be that the WDFW mismanages all of our wildlife. But suddenly, because the WDFW is issuing tags for does/cows that must mean that it's a sustainable practice? Just an observation.

Sustainability is in the eye of the beholder. Our Fish and Game isn't in the business of caring about our success. I've talked with plenty of bios in other states, and all agree that our F&W don't predicate their goals on our success, like other states do. One bio put it perfect when he said that Washingon doesn't want a Cattle Ranch, they want a hobby farm. Instead having 10,000 cows, they want 1,000 cows, 1,000 goats, 1,000 chickens, 1,000 pigs, etc....Meaning, they don't make money or care about the success of its tag holders, like other states do.  Look at our success rates compared to other states. Just because Washington hands out tags, don't get it twisted that our State truly understands or cares about what's best for us, or our game population.

[Sakko300wsm]

The threat of not posting pics on here sorta reminds me of the threat to stop social security, or to ban sports in school. 
Like you said you do you.   

My point is to bring awareness to a problem versus sitting back and watching it completely implode.  Folks are entitled to sit back in the land of unicorns and rainbows, but it isn’t sustainable if something isn’t done.

For those of you putting blind faith into the WDFW, good for you. They must be doing something right, because it’s obvious we are living the glory days right now.   

The harvesting of antlerless is a tool in wildlife management but just like trying to use a 1/2 wrench to hammer in a railroad spike.   If the tool isn’t the right tool for the current job….

 

[Platensek-po]

Anterless harvest was down to about 2k last year. Previous years was anywhere from 3-7k.

I’m curious if that’s because of less animals, less permits, people making different decisions, or all of the above.

Less permits. I can look again but about 2 yrs ago it seems they substantially reduced the permits for anterless.

[jrebel]

Anterless harvest was down to about 2k last year. Previous years was anywhere from 3-7k.

I’m curious if that’s because of less animals, less permits, people making different decisions, or all of the above.

Less permits. I can look again but about 2 yrs ago it seems they substantially reduced the permits for anterless.

Pretty sure it was 2019....could have been 2020 but I thought it was the year after I bought some property that my kids could hunt.  Whammo no more doe tags for kids.