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I normally don't bear hunt but after this I will will be actively looking to fill 2 tags. So guess I need to hook up with people to shoot some bears!
What the heck is “new science”?Concerned about overall black bear populations? They should be concerned about ungulate populations.Voting on ethical reasons? Is that the new science?The 5 yes votes are not unbiased. They can’t possibly make decisions based solely on data.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As Comissioner McIssac said they placed the bar so high that cougars Blacktail and other species couldn't be hunted using the logic for this decision. It may have been on purpose
Quote from: Special T on November 18, 2022, 02:51:32 PMAs Comissioner McIssac said they placed the bar so high that cougars Blacktail and other species couldn't be hunted using the logic for this decision. It may have been on purposeAdd in mule deer, some elk herds, goats, crab, clams, multiple fish stocks, whitetail deer, and just about every other harvested species. Ragan is severely disconnected from real world management. He's lived the mmpa and actually been critical of it and suggested multiple fisheries should close. On another note DEI should really take a close look at this commission.
Quote from: Tbar on November 18, 2022, 04:09:06 PMQuote from: Special T on November 18, 2022, 02:51:32 PMAs Comissioner McIssac said they placed the bar so high that cougars Blacktail and other species couldn't be hunted using the logic for this decision. It may have been on purposeAdd in mule deer, some elk herds, goats, crab, clams, multiple fish stocks, whitetail deer, and just about every other harvested species. Ragan is severely disconnected from real world management. He's lived the mmpa and actually been critical of it and suggested multiple fisheries should close. On another note DEI should really take a close look at this commission.Special T: Yes I think that was his last-ditch effort to call their bluff about requests for "more" and "new science". The only card he had to get them to drop the existing motion so he could propose his amended motion with some hunting opportunities and actual direction for WDFW to execute on.Tbar: What, too many white educated old folks and Karren's on here for ya? haha. It's definitely not the most diverse committee, but what concerns me the most is the influence of non-hunting and anti-hunting groups through these governor-appointed commissioners who now have the majority. I thought Lehmkuhl could be a swing vote (as others have mentioned) but not after this showing.Super frustrating meeting all the way through but not even the worst based on what I've watched in the past. Was very disappointed they called up Melanie to Zoom in only when they needed her swing vote. She's either fine and able to participate from the beginning or should be excluded from the meeting once past roll call. Also BS that they went back to re-vote after the initial 4-4 tie without her on item #2. Then even more frustrating when they allowed her to re-vote on item #3 when she'd stated Yea and moved on but "give her a break because she's been sick". I think she's worse than Smith.....so many things she stated were incorrect and driven purely off the emotion that she was portraying as fact such as no other animals being hunted in the spring....glad McIsaac caller her BS on that.Anyways, yes I think Kelly is a saint and it's going to be rough when he leaves. We should start a petition to be refunded any $ tied up in any black bear permit points since they've removed the opportunity. Or hopefully the department still offers them since it is not a "recreational" general season tag but rather a damage/conflict reduction incentive tag. It's crazy the Anti's can't see the difference between this and an elk deprivation permit. Also very concerning they'd rather knowingly have APHIS come in when the meat is going to be wasted.
I wonder what the next game species Rowland is going to try and save?
I’d be surprised if there was a 2023 fall bear season.