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Arrow weights
« on: June 01, 2009, 11:36:31 AM »
Hi all i am new to the site but not new to hunting.  I am getting back into archery and have a Diamon Marque to shoot this year and I am a little confused about arrow weights in the regs.  It is saying a min of 300 gn arrow.  I am shooting at the 70 pound mark on my bow and seems to me that 300 gn arrow is one hell of a weighted stick.  I will be hunting elk with this bow and wanted a 150 gn broad head but guess I am going to have to get something in the 250 gn weight.  Any insight to this would be great.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2009, 11:50:11 AM »
Your arrow will have to weight 420 grains total weight if you are pulling 70 pounds. Its 6 grains per pound of pull with a 300 grain minimum?

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2009, 11:58:47 AM »
That is a bunch of weight for an arrow!!  Is this typical for everyone that is hunting?  It has been 10 years since I went hunting with a bow and I don't ever remember there being an arrow weight for hunting?  I also only hunted in Oregon where the laws on hunting make more sence

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 12:15:37 PM »
I'm shooting Easton Axis 340's 28" long w/125grn broadhead for a grand total of 468grains, if your going to hunt Elk it's better to have a heavier arrow, leave the speed arrows at home and go with whats effective. I never heard of anyone wanting a 250grn arrow and 150grn Broadhead for Elk  :yike:

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 12:17:12 PM »
Thats not really a heavy arrow. It is just right  ;) Im shooting 463 grains right now.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2009, 12:20:30 PM »
well like I said it has been 10 plus years and I was a teen when I was hunting I am sure that my arrows must have been that heavy back then cause they were aluminium so I am probably beening peranoid.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 12:22:15 PM »
The weight of the arrow will help a lot with penetration as it will have more energy when it meets the target. Too light of an arrow will not be very useful on big boned, thick hides, or fat. I prefer 400 grains min.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 12:32:16 PM »
Thats not really a heavy arrow. It is just right  ;) Im shooting 463 grains right now.
yeah I guess it's not that heavy since most of the guys I hunt with shoot Easton Full Metal Jackets at around 500grn.

well like I said it has been 10 plus years and I was a teen when I was hunting I am sure that my arrows must have been that heavy back then cause they were aluminium so I am probably beening peranoid.

with a 70 pound bow your going to be shooting A 340 class arrow which is around 9.5gpi to 11.3gpi depending on the arrow you choose, you can go lighter for more speed but you lose kinetic energy and also take a chance of having an arrow blow up in your face at release due to a weak spined arrow.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 12:36:06 PM »
I really have not even payed any attention the the arrows that i got when i bought it,  I just shoot all the time to make sure I can hit the bull out to 50 yards every time so i guess next is to get the proper arrows and weights so that i can get that dialed in and ready for the season ahead.  Thanks for the help I appriciate it.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 12:49:01 PM »
Everybody makes good carbon arrows these days, but I have really been impressed with the Easton Axis arrows, they are a smaller diameter arrow for better flight and penetration, they have hidden inserts for better broadhead alignment, I give them an A+++, I have heard good things about Carbon express too but I have never tried them.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 06:04:21 PM »
Ya, mine are FMJ's 340 @ 28 inches  ;) At about 280 fps ahould have some good Kinetic  :)

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2009, 10:13:51 AM »
Don't want to push a big broadhead with a noodle.  I shoot a 320 stick and a 120 broadhead.  Works great, Had a pass through on an elk and I have seen a buddy of mine with virtually the same set up do the same on deer.   :twocents:

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2009, 10:45:44 AM »
The uprising of the laser rangefinder basically made speed bows unnecessary except for the extra energy that they can pack with a heavy arrow.  I'm using heavy stuff for the big gains in momentum and penetration.  At 239 fps my 657 grain arrow will hit what I shoot at, and do it at any range I will shoot: much the same as a light arrow.  But, what it will do that a light arrow will not is hit like a ton of bricks and bust through anything on the continent.
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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2009, 11:35:15 AM »
I am a Trad Hunter and my weights are 550gr arrow (Bill Sweetland Forgewood) and a 175gr Grizzly BH, for a total weight of 725gr from a 70#@28 Damon Howatt Recurve, my draw is 29.5 and they work awesome for elk!!
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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2009, 12:52:09 AM »
I'm shooting traditional at 75-80 pounds.  Goldtips at 322 grains give or take a little with inserts etc. and 125 heads and think I am shooting WAY TOO LIGHT (447).  I am currently investigating some heavier sticks and heads. 

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 11:57:42 PM »
I'm shooting traditional at 75-80 pounds.  Goldtips at 322 grains give or take a little with inserts etc. and 125 heads and think I am shooting WAY TOO LIGHT (447).  I am currently investigating some heavier sticks and heads. 

Yeah I'm sure you're New Mexico Elk feels the same way. ;)
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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2009, 01:04:36 AM »
So is my setup illegal with Beman ics hunter 340 with a 100 grain tip at 70lbs?

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2009, 01:09:48 AM »
and the arrow length at 29in

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2009, 05:32:51 AM »
So is my setup illegal with Beman ics hunter 340 with a 100 grain tip at 70lbs?

ICS Hunter (9.3 grains per inch) at 29" and 100 grain tip would be darn close to 430 grains, so that'd be barely legal.
ICS Camo Hunter (10.0 gpi) would be 451 grains, so that's legal too.
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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2009, 05:41:31 AM »
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Yeah I'm sure you're New Mexico Elk feels the same way.
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Yeah, kinda why I haven't changed anything yet.  Moose, elk and deer all in the bag without a problem, why screw with my set up.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2009, 05:43:58 AM »
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Yeah I'm sure you're New Mexico Elk feels the same way.
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Yeah, kinda why I haven't changed anything yet.  Moose, elk and deer all in the bag without a problem, why screw with my set up.

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Re: Arrow weights
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2009, 07:47:27 AM »
with my 60 lb bow i shoot a 367 grain arrow, the bow actually pulls 61 lb. it is my 3d bow and arrows with longer vanes and insert and 100 grain point. with my 70 lb bow i am shooting a 450 grain arrow.

 


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