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Offline James

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2023, 11:27:50 AM »
Thank you to all that spoke.

I really believe this is the hill we need to be willing to die on as sportsman. If this passes, I think the chances of fishing and hunting in Washington being picked away into oblivion is almost certain.

If we can stop this policy change I am not saying we are out of the woods, but at least the countdown clock to the end of fishing and hunting in WA hasn't started yet.
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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2023, 11:54:37 AM »
Its music to my ears that they're "tired of hearing about Spring bear".

I hope they get REALLY tired of hearing about it.

Keep it up, thanks for doing what you did!

People can only take so much, especially when they know they're wrong.  Keep up the pressure.

agree.  What I get tired of hearing is "only 2% of Washingtonians hunt.  We need to account for the other 98% in our decision making"   I have said this before, every one of these Washington boards, oversight committees, regulators etc who manage the niche departments within the state are under the wrong assumption/fallacy that the totality of the population needs to drive decision making.  The most impacted user group needs to have the biggest say and influence.  Period.  WSDOT has a rules board for aviation and public airfields.  Could you imagine if it was staffed with non pilots who drove an agenda based on input from the entire state where most folks have no skin in the game?  That is what this commission is doing.

 :yeah: I thought WA was all about protecting the minority.

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2023, 08:15:47 AM »
Two more days to voice concern on draft policy. Article on FB is very disturbing from the commissioners view points. Urge everyone to reply.

draftconservationpolicy@PublicInput.com or call 855 925 2801. Punch in # 4262 to leave message.

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2023, 08:59:06 AM »
can someone post the link to what is on FB?

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2023, 09:18:13 AM »
can someone post the link to what is on FB?
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Wish I knew how. It’s an article from NW Sportsman by Andy Walgamet


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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2023, 09:58:26 AM »
Here's the link to the NW Sportsman article:

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-commissioners-on-what-they-heard-about-conservation-policy/

I haven't tried finding the FB link, but suspect it would do more good to get your comments directly to the commission by using the link elksnout posted.  Seriously doubt posting on FB carries much weight.

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2023, 12:23:51 PM »
You did a really good job, Carl.    :tup: :tup:

Thank you.
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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2023, 01:26:37 PM »
Oh ya there gonna make there decision in October durring deer season . yup never seen that before.

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2023, 03:54:33 PM »
I spoke via Zoom on Friday.  I was the one that had a rebuttal for Lemkuhl about him whining about feeling ignored and called a liar.  I gave the quote from John McClane, "Welcome to the party pal." Basically, now you know what all of the hunters and anglers in this state feel like, as we've been ignored by the commission. 

I truly wish that more of you would flood the public comment periods whether in person or via Zoom.  It always seems to be the same dozen people or so making comments.  I know for a fact they are sick of hearing me speak, as I've had some of them walk out while I give my testimony.  There are thousands and thousands and thousands of hunters in this state, yet only a dozen or so comment at almost every meeting.  We need more people to sign up!

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2023, 03:15:41 PM »
Today is the last day to post public comments. Please do so.

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2023, 05:31:59 PM »
I commented today and have a running email with Lumkuhl. I'm surprised he is emailing me back. He told me that he wished us hunters could give a pro and con argument for spring bear hunting. I told him that I have not heard any of the anti hunters give a pro argument

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Re: I spoke before the commission yesterday
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2023, 06:13:20 PM »
I commented today and have a running email with Lumkuhl. I'm surprised he is emailing me back. He told me that he wished us hunters could give a pro and con argument for spring bear hunting. I told him that I have not heard any of the anti hunters give a pro argument
So that's the new norm? Hunting is not allowed until a pro/con discussion is held? How about listening to the biologists who said it is needed for many reasons as a pro argument.
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