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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2023, 03:37:51 PM »
The only way we can go at this juncture is forward. So many sportsmen look only at the past. The past is not working anymore. We will loose ALL we hold dear if those in charge now have their way


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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2023, 04:11:24 PM »
Random thought, kinda close to topic.

Does anyone have any insight or idea why, since we are shared partners with the tribes why they do not have a slot or 2 seated on the Commission?

As has been said, what is done or not done outside the reservations still has an impact on them, at least to some degree I would think.


Their sovereign nation status, state doesnt set their rules they dont set ours.

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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2023, 04:36:13 PM »
Random thought, kinda close to topic.

Does anyone have any insight or idea why, since we are shared partners with the tribes why they do not have a slot or 2 seated on the Commission?

As has been said, what is done or not done outside the reservations still has an impact on them, at least to some degree I would think.


Their sovereign nation status, state doesnt set their rules they dont set ours.

I know that, was wondering though if that shouldn't change slightly, there is always talk of co-management & cooperation between WDFW & the tribes, maybe they should have some standing/a voice in the commission as well?   

Just a thought, trying to find some approach that maybe hasn't been considered yet.


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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2023, 09:21:03 PM »
Random thought, kinda close to topic.

Does anyone have any insight or idea why, since we are shared partners with the tribes why they do not have a slot or 2 seated on the Commission?

As has been said, what is done or not done outside the reservations still has an impact on them, at least to some degree I would think.


Their sovereign nation status, state doesnt set their rules they dont set ours.

A tribal member has been on the comission before. I would have to resear the name.
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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2023, 11:09:39 PM »
No, I am not recommending anyone do this.

But if things get out of control, I wouldn't be at all surprised if people start taking predator management into their own hands; at least with the canines.


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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2023, 12:55:09 AM »
No, I am not recommending anyone do this.

But if things get out of control, I wouldn't be at all surprised if people start taking predator management into their own hands; at least with the canines.

That's been happening for a long time now, WDFW made it clear early on that they had no desire to be Honest with livestock predation and at this point if the truth be known, they don't really give a dam about wolves getting shot as there is no way to reverse the impact wolves have and will have in the future.

Took a trip with a rancher over in on the Okanogan side today, we drove one big pasture of 2800 acres, took about 6 hours. In country that is prime mule deer country where 20 years ago you would have seen 3-400 head a day, we saw 8 deer.

The illegal wolf introduction accomplished part of it's goal to destroy hunting. State game agencies that support wolves and carried on the lies of the USFWS along with the fake environmentalists and their lackies on hunting sites such as this have won. Get use to it!

Switch over to cougars that are pushed out of their hunting areas by wolves and lack of prey to end up hunting farmland animals, are shot quite frequently around peoples homes, and of course WDFW are informed. You very seldom read anything in the paper as it is old news at this point as it happens on a regular bases.

I could now jump into the bear problem which is real in the summer month, keeps WDFW fairly busy shooting problem bears. They contract out their nuisance trapping now.

Another 3 years or less and my guess is WDFW will leap to their feet to blame everything except their poor management on lack of deer etc., and close hunting down. It won't change the outcome, because as I said at the start hunting and trapping wolves will not control the population. There will be more predation on livestock as all those predators WDFW protect need to eat. Hunt while you can because it's going to come to an end in the not so distant future. :twocents:


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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2023, 09:47:45 AM »
This state sucks.!!
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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2023, 11:08:28 AM »
Will I pay someone else to do something that I, by right, should be able to do?

No.

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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2023, 06:12:34 PM »
The tribes don't even share harvest data so I would think that in itself disqaulifies the co manager status.
go ahead on er.

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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2023, 07:45:57 PM »
Paying the tribes to kill predators is genius. The politically correct anti hunters would be scared to death to say anything. Someone needs to do it and just model off the foundation for wildlife management. The system is in place and working great in Idaho. Copy that and pay the natives for a confirmed harvest as a "reimbursement". I will join and I dont even live in Washington. fwim memberships are cheap and they pay out hundreds of thousands for legally trapped and hunted wolves yearly. It cant hurt! just watching the antis crap there pants, that alone would be worth it!

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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2023, 05:21:29 AM »
Paying the tribes to kill predators is genius. The politically correct anti hunters would be scared to death to say anything.

I believe the Makah people would beg to differ.

How many whales have they been allowed to take?

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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2023, 05:43:16 AM »
Assuming the tribal ratio of hunters that are participating in predator hunting is similar to non-tribal Im doubtful it would make a significant dent in the predator population unless those few hunters were using hounds and baiting…and basically being paid enough that it would effectively be a full time job year round.

Regardless our hunting rights are in jeopardy and theirs will be too once we’re out of the way. A coalition of tribal and non tribal hunters is going to be required to stop the commission and their anti-hunting supporters.
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Re: Are sportsmen now willing to pay tribal members to hunt predators?
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2023, 08:02:51 AM »
Two.of our local west side tribes have/had local guys who were running hounds to help with cats in a couple of their ceded lands areas. They were amazingly successful in taking large cats. The interest is there and could be used a a decent management tool. I would also say that the Quinault Nation has a spring bear hunt that's over bait. They sell those hunts for thousands of dollars. I'd be interested in a guided hound hunt for cougars. I hunted with hounds as a kid and miss it terribly.

 


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