Federal Judge Strikes Down Gun Possession Limit for Violating Second Amendment

[Jake Dogfish]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Not if they are in jail.

You’re good with it once they’re out dealing again?

I was talking about drug and alcohol users, not liquor stores or dealers.

[jackelope]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Not if they are in jail.

You’re good with it once they’re out dealing again?

I was talking about drug and alcohol users, not liquor stores or dealers.

How do you tell if a guy busted for using wasn’t also a dealer who used guns to commit drug related crimes?

[Knocker of rocks]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Not if they are in jail.

You’re good with it once they’re out dealing again?

I was talking about drug and alcohol users, not liquor stores or dealers.

So a person should be allowed to get unlimited DUI’s without realizing their full punishment?

[optic2]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Once a person is out of prison and finished parole are their other Constitutional rights suspended? Imagine if a state said a convicted felon no longer has freedom of speech, freedom of religion, no 4th Amendment rights and no 5th Amendment rights.

The way I look at is if we can't trust someone to own a gun then that sounds like they should still be in prison.

Plus the law prevents zero crime. It's as easy to get a gun on the illegal market as it is to buy gum at a 7-11.

[Jake Dogfish]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Not if they are in jail.

You’re good with it once they’re out dealing again?

I was talking about drug and alcohol users, not liquor stores or dealers.

So a person should be allowed to get unlimited DUI’s without realizing their full punishment?

No.

[Jake Dogfish]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Not if they are in jail.

You’re good with it once they’re out dealing again?

I was talking about drug and alcohol users, not liquor stores or dealers.

How do you tell if a guy busted for using wasn’t also a dealer who used guns to commit drug related crimes?

That sounds like a good question for your local “Coffee with a cop”. 

[Knocker of rocks]

Drugs or alcohol should not override your 2a rights.
Even if your dad is president.

So felony drug dealers should be able to pack?

Once a person is out of prison and finished parole are their other Constitutional rights suspended?

Actually yes, their right to vote stops. And right here on this board movements to allow ex-felons the right to vote is often decried as just a why to get more dem votes

[ghosthunter]

I guess it depends on how much punishment do we require of a convicted person.
For me is is not black and white. To me the crime, the intent at time of crime and how many years have lapsed since the crime.

I know a young man who got convicted of having sex with a minor
36 months younger than him I think. He was 18. The young lady would sneak out and meet him in a park. There was no weapon, No violence, just two kids.

Her mother read her diary and found out. Thus charges.

He got a year at Forks, and five years monitoring.  28 years later he has married
raised  a son ,works everyday, does volunteer community work with homeless in his off time.



Yet no rights.

I think he has paid his dues.

[Knocker of rocks]

As related, the story has several implausibilities. The age difference is less than the customary triggering unless there was coercive behavior based on work, school and mental ability

With a little skullduggery one can figure out the law in effect in 1995

https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9a.44&full=true

[JimmyHoffa]

I think you can retain rights for felonies if they are certain white collar, financial crimes.

[pianoman9701]

I think you can retain rights for felonies if they are certain white collar, financial crimes.

That depends on the state. Blue states, especially those with more oppressive gun control laws, tend to have a longer list of convictions which will preclude you from firearm possession.

[Knocker of rocks]

It’s a federal issue

The Gun Control Act (GCA), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), makes it unlawful for certain categories of persons to ship, transport, receive, or possess firearms or ammunition, to include any person:

convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/identify-prohibited-persons

[jackelope]

I guess it depends on how much punishment do we require of a convicted person.
For me is is not black and white. To me the crime, the intent at time of crime and how many years have lapsed since the crime.

I know a young man who got convicted of having sex with a minor
36 months younger than him I think. He was 18. The young lady would sneak out and meet him in a park. There was no weapon, No violence, just two kids.

Her mother read her diary and found out. Thus charges.

He got a year at Forks, and five years monitoring.  28 years later he has married
raised  a son ,works everyday, does volunteer community work with homeless in his off time.



Yet no rights.

I think he has paid his dues.

Has he petitioned to get his rights reinstated?

[Jpmiller]

I don't mean to besmirch anyones story that I don't know, but I can say that I've known at least two folks who have lost firearm privileges under similar circumstances only to find out later that maybe the armed robbery they forgot about had something to do with it too.

[jackelope]

Besmirch? What the heck with the $25 words!!