collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?  (Read 4341 times)

Offline follow maggie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 3323
  • Location: Fargo
  • Just me, just being a nomad
Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« on: December 23, 2023, 05:08:26 AM »
Wow- Cummins is paying the feds a fine of $1.6B for cheating on the emissions of the engines in Ram trucks, nearly a million of them since 2013.  The same thing as Volkswagen & the Ecodiesel hey used to use in the 1500s & jeeps. Ram wasn’t involved in it but they’re the ones who’ll have to do the recall that’s coming. Volkswagen had to buy tons of cars back & the vehicles with he ecodiesel were almost unusable after the recall. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Definitely will be going to court with Ram.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/cummins-take-about-204-bln-charge-fourth-quarter-2023-12-22/?ref=upstract.com

Offline cem3434

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+31)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 3184
  • Location: Wetside
  • Groups: NRA, MDF, RMEF, NWTF, PF, RGS, WSF, WSTA
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2023, 08:14:13 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.
The best friend a guy could have asked for. RIP chasing pheasants in heaven Denali girl.

Offline Duckslayer89

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2014
  • Posts: 4142
  • Location: Cut Bank, Montana
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2023, 08:31:36 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.

I don’t think Cummins made the eco diesel but I could be wrong

Offline Jonathan_S

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 8998
  • Location: Medical Lake
  • Volleyfire Brigade, Cryder apologist
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2023, 09:03:12 AM »
Interesting read, I didn't see a reference to the ecodiesels in the article. It appears to be the standard Cummins in the 2500 and 3500 pickups from 2013 and on. As an ecodiesel owner, I will pay attention to this as it sounds like a large class action lawsuit is likely to follow.

I don’t think Cummins made the eco diesel but I could be wrong

You're right, I can't remember the main manufacturer but it wasn't Cummins and a few batches were Maserati.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

Offline timberfaller

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2014
  • Posts: 4159
  • Location: East Wenatchee
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2023, 09:25:41 AM »
Just another example of Federal regs doing harm to everyone!!  Control Control Control is all it is!!  Wake up people!!

Cummin's has been fined in the Billions for "supposedly" doing the same thing VW got nailed with!  Polluting the air causing climate change!!  Ya can't fix stupid, especially if there is taxes/fines to be had!!! :bash:
The only good tree, is a stump!

Offline follow maggie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 3323
  • Location: Fargo
  • Just me, just being a nomad
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 09:50:17 AM »
The ecodiesel was an Italian engine. I saw the reference to it on a different news piece.  I don’t remember which years of them were affected

Offline HntnFsh

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 6221
  • Location: Toledo
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2023, 10:53:27 AM »
Fiat?

Offline buglebuster

  • ELKOHOLIC
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 3618
  • Location: yakima
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2023, 01:44:00 PM »
What about all the ones we as consumers deleted ourselves  :chuckle:

Offline timberfaller

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2014
  • Posts: 4159
  • Location: East Wenatchee
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2023, 01:54:50 PM »
"What about all the ones we as consumers deleted ourselves"  :chuckle:

According to the article I read, its still Cummin's fault!  Typical government stooge way of thinking!
The only good tree, is a stump!

Offline Magnum_Willys

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2009
  • Posts: 5602
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2023, 01:57:15 PM »
Had a few ecodiesels - that lawsuit was a couple years back. 

Looks like it followed all the diesel makers - what a crock!

Offline hunter399

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8740
  • Location: In Your Hunting Spot
  • Groups: NRA RMEF
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2023, 05:02:28 PM »
Look at the warm weather we are having.
How dare you have a warm winter.
Sure the animals are loving this climate change right now.

How dare you!!!   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:


Offline L8NITE

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 486
  • Location: Olympic Peninsula
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2023, 05:24:43 PM »
Poor Greta needs to talk to WDFW about science :chuckle:
"The Hunts not over!"

Offline hunter399

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8740
  • Location: In Your Hunting Spot
  • Groups: NRA RMEF
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2023, 07:59:57 PM »
Poor Greta needs to talk to WDFW about science :chuckle:
I think she already has..... lol  :chuckle:
#1 stake holder right there.

Offline Lucky Eric

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 156
  • Location: Bonney Lake WA
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2023, 08:52:44 PM »
My '18 is on the recall list. I believe it's just the HO engines but not 100% sure. I doubt I'll be in a hurry to let Ram touch it. Truck runs just fine as is.

Offline boneaddict

  • Site Sponsor
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50475
  • Location: Selah, Washington
Re: Start of the end of Cummins & Ram?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2023, 08:56:15 PM »
There is nothing eco friendly about my truck and I could care less.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Early Huckleberry Bull Moose tag drawn! by HillHound
[Yesterday at 11:25:17 PM]


THE ULTIMATE QUAD!!!! by Deer slayer
[Yesterday at 10:33:55 PM]


AUCTION: SE Idaho DIY Deer or Deer/Elk Hunt by Tbar
[Yesterday at 10:29:43 PM]


Archery elk gear, 2025. by WapitiTalk1
[Yesterday at 09:41:28 PM]


Unknown Suppressors - Whisper Pickle by pickardjw
[Yesterday at 09:11:06 PM]


Utah cow elk hunt by bearpaw
[Yesterday at 07:18:51 PM]


Oregon spring bear by kodiak06
[Yesterday at 04:40:38 PM]


Tree stand for Western Washingtn by kodiak06
[Yesterday at 04:37:01 PM]


Pocket Carry by BKMFR
[Yesterday at 03:34:12 PM]


A lonely Job... by Loup Loup
[Yesterday at 01:15:11 PM]


Range finders & Angle Compensation by Fidelk
[Yesterday at 11:58:48 AM]


Willapa Hills 1 Bear by hunter399
[Yesterday at 10:55:29 AM]


Bearpaw Outfitters Annual July 4th Hunt Sale by bearpaw
[Yesterday at 08:40:03 AM]


KODIAK06 2025 trail cam and personal pics thread by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 07:53:52 AM]


Yard bucks by Boss .300 winmag
[July 04, 2025, 11:20:39 PM]


Yard babies by Feathernfurr
[July 04, 2025, 10:04:54 PM]


Seeking recommendations on a new scope by coachg
[July 04, 2025, 08:10:21 PM]


Sauk Unit Youth Elk Tips by high_hunter
[July 04, 2025, 08:06:05 PM]


Jupiter Mountain Rayonier Permit- 621 Bull Tag by HntnFsh
[July 04, 2025, 07:58:22 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal