what mid size SUV?

[Whitpirate]

I really like the Mazda CX-5 or 7, or the Nissan Rogue.  If I could get the European turbo diesel Rogue, I'd have one.

[jackelope]

Kia Telluride. Super popular and a nice car. Hyundai Pailsade is also a super nice car.

[Russ McDonald]

Kia Telluride. Super popular and a nice car. Hyundai Pailsade is also a super nice car.

Aren't those some of the ones that are being stolen and crashed into pot shops?

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[birdshooter1189]

My wife's 2008 Lexus RX-350 has been great. Now at 218k miles.  Average 24 mpg. Non-hybrid. AWD. IMO, it drives smoother and nicer than my inlaw's 2012 Honda CRV.  Handles great in snow.

My brother was shopping for a Teluride or Palisade. After test driving both he said he liked the Palisade WAY better. He bought new and after 6 months I haven't heard any complaints from him. I haven't ridden in it yet.

[MidgetIdjit]

Drove a 2000 Explorer V8 for a number of years. Did what we needed.

With kids getting older, wanted a 3rd row.

Picked up a 2021 Kia Sorento hybrid. Put 8k on it in 5 months before it was totalled in an accident. (Glitchy electronics contributed.)

As Kia then wanted a $5k 'market surcharge' on the Sorento plus the bad experience with it, we were within spitting distance of an AWD Highlander hybrid.

Totally different car. More room inside. Much more refined hybrid system. Toyota reputation.

Have 41k trouble-free miles in the past 22 months. Winter average is ~34mpg, summer is almost 40mpg. (There is a trip difference between the two.)

Has Trail Mode so our driveway in the snow and ice is a piece of cake.

Guess bottom line is that I'd suggest and recommend the Highlander.

[b23]

We've had a two Ford Explorer's and both were great rigs.  Bought my daughter a low mile used Lincoln MKC she's had all through HS and college and it's been a great little SUV.  My sister has had three Lincoln MKX's and now has a Nautilus, all of them have been great vehicles as well.  I don't think any of them are immune to issues or problems so like anything it's best to do your research and go from there.

[vandeman17]

Thanks for all the recommendations. We just received the updated details of the program and only rule is the vehicle has to be 8 years old or newer and in good condition. Still strongly leaning towards a mid sized SUV and will take a few out for test drives. I am hoping to find a year end 0% or super low interest financing option

[jason stevens]

I would recommend a Toyota 4 runner with a 3 4. I have a 96 that gets 23 mpg sound an great on the highway at 70 an awesome off road. Lexus rx 350 has the same motor but triple the price. Good luck

[Taco280AI]

Max of 8 years old, that counts out the 3.4 liter.

[jackelope]

Kia Telluride. Super popular and a nice car. Hyundai Pailsade is also a super nice car.

Aren't those some of the ones that are being stolen and crashed into pot shops?

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That’s the brands but not the cars. Those are the more base model cars that don’t have  any security or anti theft equipment. 

[dreadi]

We had a Forester. I would not call that a SUV any more than our a Outback. My MIL has a new Forester and it's still not a SUV. It fits four adults and child in a car seat. Those adults are all 5'5 and under. However, All Wheel Drive and the right tires will get you in and out of the Colockum at the end of Modern Elk during a snow storm when you have to drive over the pass to help breakdown camps...ask my loving wife about that.

Last week I took a ride in new Tahoe. Six full size adults were very comfortable due to that third row seating. However, that third row in use really kills the amount of internal open space for luggage or whatever you want to put back there.


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[C-Money]

My daughter bought a new Chevy Trax. I was really amazed at the room it has. She has 5000 miles on it now, and it is a really nice rig. A deal breaker for many is its only FWD. The Blazer is AWD. Might take a look at the Trax & Blazer. Good luck finding the right vehicle!

[fishngamereaper]

Considering your hobbies I would sacrifice some gas mileage for off road performance.
Probably also stick with something that's serviceable in the valley since new means warranty coverage...
I'd lean 4runner or Cherokee...

[Night goat]

Stay away from Ford... Most of the new engines are eco boost which means small displacement engines getting every squirrel squeezed out of it with a turbo... Sports car maintenance in an economy vehicle package... Premium fuel only

I ended up with a bronco sport for a while... Gave it back... Didn't like the performance.

Hard to go wrong with Subaru

But I'd just get a jeep TJ 

[Taco280AI]

Stay away from Ford... Most of the new engines are eco boost which means small displacement engines getting every squirrel squeezed out of it with a turbo... Sports car maintenance in an economy vehicle package... Premium fuel only

I ended up with a bronco sport for a while... Gave it back... Didn't like the performance.

Hard to go wrong with Subaru

But I'd just get a jeep TJ 

Ford uses turbos. Toyota went to turbos. Dodge is going turbo. Chevy has a turbo. Subaru (engine dependent) has a turbo. Everyone is headed that route.