Shed hunting trespassers and rule breakers

[Gooseassassin]

I would bet a ton that it’s the locals mad that you’ve taken “their” hunting spot from them. I’m sorry u have to deal with that it sucks that people act so entitled. I’ve leased some hunting grounds for 25 plus years and it took over 10 years to stop the majority of the same problems. Good luck, word will eventually get out and help you out

[Rainier10]

I shared some photos last year and think I touched a nerve.

[Skyvalhunter]

What nerve might that be

[LDennis24]

One word


“Enforcement”

 

I can catch the trespassers I deal with, LEO is a half hour away dealing with some s-bag who just beat up his girl friend cuz she took the last hit of fentanyl... again, cuz he was at that same house last week for the same reason, prosecutor is busy with the same issues so when you call the cops and say a guy is walking in your forest with a deer antler in his hand they want to just hang up. LEO is spread so thin they simply cannot handle all the non violent crimes so alot of them get warning after warning after warning and it goes unpunished. There needs to be a mandatory monetary fine for it. No deferment after the first warning.  You have to pay. My comment about non violent crimes vs violent and domestic crimes is no joke either. If you ever want to know why Spokane is such a shirehole look at the size of the jail and how full it is on a regular basis. There is not enough room for the criminals in the area to be housed. So if it's a crime such as theft or damaging property etc, then the person is quickly run through the court and given a future court date and then immediately released back onto the street. The jail is filled with all the pedos, violent drug offenders, domestic violence rapists, assaulters etc. And they refuse to build a larger jail to house more criminals. That's why you see news articles about people with 14 felonies who finally get caught committing murder or something extreme and they finally get put away. They do not have time for people who walked across your property. It's sickening.

[hunter399]

Sell the property to me for one dollar.
I'll never build,it will stay set aside for wildlife.
You'll always have permission to hunt,will put that into a contract.
I'll take care of your trespass problem.(Joking)

Seriously now ...
That's what a lot of timber companies our doing by problem gates.
They sell all the land by the gate,turn there property into landlocked land. You could sell an acre or two to someone at the gate.
Let them build a permanent residence. They pretty much protect your now landlocked land. With just being there all the time.

[ganghis]

So not justifying, but given the confusion on the county employee's part I'm wondering what OnX and other apps say about your land ownership right now?  I've often encountered spots that look public on OnX but are posted, which makes me think it's someone trying to keep people off of public land by posting it.  I usually just back off in that case since I'm not totally sure what the deal is, but I can see people jumping to that conclusion.  Could that be a reason why you are getting people ripping down signs and stuff?  Certainly sounds like more brazen activity than I'd expect!

[Rainier10]

The county guy just assumed. OnX is clear and my signs are actually 50 yards onto my property unless it is a spot the road. The road runs right through it.

See photo, blue lines are where the fencing is along the road. Red line is property line. Above is DNR below is my property. OnX shows the gate notation on the property line but in reality gate is clearly on my property. There are survey markers and a definite row of trees right at the red property line where the loggers marked when they logged DNR first and then my property years later.

Worst part of the county guy ripping down the signs is he has my phone number. I had given him permission to take a wounded warrior elk hunting on my place. Told him he was free to hunt anything with my orange signs on it so he knew he was ripping down my sign. When called out for it he contacted DNR and they told him that’s a private gate not on DNR land. We could have easily had a conversation about it, if he didn’t believe me he could call DNR and confirm I was right and not torn my sign down and thrown it in the bushes.

[Rainier10]

The biggest issues at this gate are damage to nearby cameras, gate left open when I have cattle grazing, gate being blocked with parked vehicles, this road goes off my property onto DNR and then loops back on and through my property. DNR has it posted as “authorized vehicles only” that’s DNR service vehicles, logging vehicles when there is active logging and myself and one other property owner who have an easement on and off the DNR land to get to ours.  With that said many people think they are an “authorized vehicle” and drive in with trucks side by sides motorcycles pit bikes.  They also set up camp on my property, leave trash, have fires even during burn bans.  The list of stuff just goes on and on. The worst part is that this is done by hunters and then they complain when more and more land gets shut down.

[bornhunter]

Rainier you ever need someone to hang out and keep eyes on your property give me a shout. Would just be there to let people know where they can and cant go. I am the guy who sent you that photo of a no trespassing sign on my property with a BPA easement. Took me about ten years to finally get the point across to people that BPA lines run across private land. Spent a lot of time sitting at access points on opening days and talking with people. Of course it helped being in a Sheriff's Office patrol vehicle from where I was employed for 31 years. 

[LDennis24]

Rainier you ever need someone to hang out and keep eyes on your property give me a shout. Would just be there to let people know where they can and cant go. I am the guy who sent you that photo of a no trespassing sign on my property with a BPA easement. Took me about ten years to finally get the point across to people that BPA lines run across private land. Spent a lot of time sitting at access points on opening days and talking with people. Of course it helped being in a Sheriff's Office patrol vehicle from where I was employed for 31 years. 

So do you still have the vehicle? That would help! 

[HntnFsh]

Rainier you ever need someone to hang out and keep eyes on your property give me a shout. Would just be there to let people know where they can and cant go. I am the guy who sent you that photo of a no trespassing sign on my property with a BPA easement. Took me about ten years to finally get the point across to people that BPA lines run across private land. Spent a lot of time sitting at access points on opening days and talking with people. Of course it helped being in a Sheriff's Office patrol vehicle from where I was employed for 31 years. 

So do you still have the vehicle? That would help! 

 

[LDennis24]

That's how you fix the problem Rainer10! You're gonna have to watch the government auctions and buy the next game wardens pickup that comes through and during hunting season park it in random spots along your property and the DNR ground. Your gonna have to hire someone to move it regularly though but atleast you can deter the criminals until one of them steals the entire truck!

[Rainier10]

That's how you fix the problem Rainer10! You're gonna have to watch the government auctions and buy the next game wardens pickup that comes through and during hunting season park it in random spots along your property and the DNR ground. Your gonna have to hire someone to move it regularly though but atleast you can deter the criminals until one of them steals the entire truck!

You know they would actually arrest me for impersonating an officer right?  That’s how it works, the good guy gets arrested for trying to stop the bad guys.

[dilleytech]

Not justifying anything anyone is doing there, but I do think one of the contributing factors is that it once was open.  I can’t tell you how many sheds I found there in the past, before shed hunting became a money sport.   I think people get in their head their own entitlement of “ownership” of a spot.  I went a canyon or two over last year on a fluke and was shocked at the amount of private property and loss of  access.  I just turned around and came home.  Others, not so much……

I have been shedding hunting deep into a spot and encountered a new rope fence with signs. I opened onX and there’s no private property listed. Still just timber company. But I was out of cell service and the maps I was looking at were a couple years old that I downloaded. Accidents happen. Then there’s the intentional trespassing described above.

If I shot an animal legally on public land and it ran onto private land and died. I know what I would do. I would take My chances. Right or wrong I feel morally obligated to not waste wild game.

[hunter399]

Not justifying anything anyone is doing there, but I do think one of the contributing factors is that it once was open.  I can’t tell you how many sheds I found there in the past, before shed hunting became a money sport.   I think people get in their head their own entitlement of “ownership” of a spot.  I went a canyon or two over last year on a fluke and was shocked at the amount of private property and loss of  access.  I just turned around and came home.  Others, not so much……

I have been shedding hunting deep into a spot and encountered a new rope fence with signs. I opened onX and there’s no private property listed. Still just timber company. But I was out of cell service and the maps I was looking at were a couple years old that I downloaded. Accidents happen. Then there’s the intentional trespassing described above.

If I shot an animal legally on public land and it ran onto private land and died. I know what I would do. I would take My chances. Right or wrong I feel morally obligated to not waste wild game.

So......
You wouldn't try to obtain permission first.
What if your animal went through multiple properties.
How many trespass charges are worth a deer.
What if there is multiple hunting blinds on the private property.
Is it even worth the time to ask for permission,they would probably just deny permission ,lie,and keep your deer.

Not sure the juice is worth the squeeze.

I guess all I'm saying is ,a lot different hunting situation.
A lot of different folks out there that might do things differently.
A lot might do it the same....who knows.

I know a few property owners ,if you ask they'll help you find it.
If there home,you didn't ask you'll get nothing.They catch you in there backyard it's not gonna turn out well.