This has always been my contention with going on a guided hunt. Most people would call a guided trip as a "dream" or "once in a lifetime." I get the whole "experience" thing in the hunting world. But if you're pay 10k and up, your brain is expecting success. Otherwise, you're paying 10k for a camping trip. At least thats how I see it. If I just wanting "an experience," I going camping in the backcountry during Sept without a tag in my pocket and have "an experience" with very little cost. Feel bad for those he screwed over