rasbo: i dont think you know the situation, have you bowhunted elk with several camps around 8miles or more back in still doesnt change anything in my mind.I always expect to see somebody now days, if not bonus.I have hunted a long ways in on horse back in Idaho.how far it was I dont know.It was wilderness and I ran into hikers,and hunters.Just made the best out of the situation,there was ten of us 5 tents all wall tents.bargermen creek,outside of elk city