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Older SxS shotgun
« on: November 23, 2025, 01:45:59 PM »
I inherited an older SxS shotgun and had been sitting in the safe for 10 years without much thought.  Any info on Joseph Butler from Chicago and SxS shotguns.  Older shotguns are not my thing so just looking for info.  Mechanically seems functional and all there, appears as a 12 gauge but not sure on chamber length etc.  any info is appreciated!
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Re: Older SxS shotgun
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2025, 02:02:44 PM »
AI says:

Historical Gunmaker Joseph Butler & Co.

There was a historical firm, Joseph Butler & Co., located at 179 E Madison Street, Chicago, Illinois, active from approximately 1870-1880. This company was primarily known as re-barrellers and choke borers but also made some guns, often on W. & C. Scott Actions.

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Re: Older SxS shotgun
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2025, 04:46:56 PM »
Looks like that might be a Damascus barrel.

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Re: Older SxS shotgun
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2025, 05:22:45 PM »
Another source for information is Shotgun World another free site. Dismount the barrels take photos of the water table and the underside of the barrels. The water table is where the barrels match up with the receiver those areas have most of the historical information of the gun. 
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Re: Older SxS shotgun
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2025, 06:53:27 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone, I will pop the forend off and get some pictures of that.  They are Damascus barrels (another thing I don’t know anything about).  I’ll check out shotgun world, I was trying to figure out a good website for that.
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Re: Older SxS shotgun
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2025, 07:24:01 PM »
@JDHasty seems to have a lot of knowledge about older guns and also knows where to look when he doesn't. Maybe he'll spot this and chime in.
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Re: Older SxS shotgun
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2025, 08:53:52 PM »
Get some good photos of it up and I’ll reach out. 

What I do know is that most of those old breach loading 12 gauge guns have 2 1/2 inch chambers.  What I have been able to find suggests that he moved from England to Chicago and has strong connections to the Birmingham firearms trade and Webley & Scott in particular. 

There is substantial crossover interest between single shot (falling block) enthusiasts and double guns.  It wouldn’t surprise me if someone can’t give quite a bit of info on it or respond with a web address of a site that people knowledgeable in them frequent. It appears to me as though this concern imported and/or worked on Purdy, Wesley Richards and other “Best” quality guns.  Photos of any markings are going to be helpful and photos of the action as well. 


 


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