New bow ideas

[blackveltbowhunter]

I referenced the hoyt torrex specifically because the OP mentioned it ( at least I beleive thats the bow he was referring to as i have never heard of a hoyt vortex or vortex XT). My advice would be to NOT pay 800 for a hoyt  torrex simply because you should be able to locate one at nearly half that with it being discontinued. But if working on a budget it can be an excellent option. Side note:  I much prefer the standard torrex over the XT, and feel the xt is not worth the upgrade cost, but that is simply IMO. The new Enduro ( replaced the Torrex ) is a great shooter and might honestly be the best value if shopping in the brand new arena. With flagships being around 1500+ MSRP, the Enduro ringing in at nearly half that is appealing for the features it offers.

With the OP mentioning an increase in budget more around 1300, I completely agree on shopping for last years models new. A  LIFT X, or AX2 should be coming in around a grand if a shop is actually trying to move inventory, maybe better if your willing to kit it out off their floor.

I tend to disagree with comments about budget bows shooting just as well as flagship bows. As these comments often conflate the ability to shoot accurately with performance. Nearly all bows  are accurate and can be setup to shoot at or above the accuracy potential of a given shooter or machine. But to do that while simultaneously producing as much energy potential as that platform and shooter are capable of? That is a different thing altogether.  Its like saying a honda accord is superior to a Ferrari because it is more trouble free while driving  at highway speeds.
  I have not found a budget platform bow yet that shoots what I would consider "sweet" if pushing the performance envelope.

[Dreaded Archer24]

I referenced the hoyt torrex specifically because the OP mentioned it ( at least I beleive thats the bow he was referring to as i have never heard of a hoyt vortex or vortex XT). My advice would be to NOT pay 800 for a hoyt  torrex simply because you should be able to locate one at nearly half that with it being discontinued. But if working on a budget it can be an excellent option. Side note:  I much prefer the standard torrex over the XT, and feel the xt is not worth the upgrade cost, but that is simply IMO. The new Enduro ( replaced the Torrex ) is a great shooter and might honestly be the best value if shopping in the brand new arena. With flagships being around 1500+ MSRP, the Enduro ringing in at nearly half that is appealing for the features it offers.

With the OP mentioning an increase in budget more around 1300, I completely agree on shopping for last years models new. A  LIFT X, or AX2 should be coming in around a grand if a shop is actually trying to move inventory, maybe better if your willing to kit it out off their floor.

I tend to disagree with comments about budget bows shooting just as well as flagship bows. As these comments often conflate the ability to shoot accurately with performance. Nearly all bows  are accurate and can be setup to shoot at or above the accuracy potential of a given shooter or machine. But to do that while simultaneously producing as much energy potential as that platform and shooter are capable of? That is a different thing altogether.  Its like saying a honda accord is superior to a Ferrari because it is more trouble free while driving  at highway speeds.
  I have not found a budget platform bow yet that shoots what I would consider "sweet" if pushing the performance envelope.

That’s what I meant. The  Enduro I know it’s out on their website for their 2026 lineup but like you said you could get a Matthews for the same price and still have flagship level. Who cares if it’s just a year or two behind.


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[blackveltbowhunter]

 

[WoolSocks]

It’s like saying a honda accord is superior to a Ferrari because it is more trouble free while driving  at highway speeds.
  I have not found a budget platform bow yet that shoots what I would consider "sweet" if pushing the performance envelope.

What are some examples of pushing the performance envelope? Curious to see what it’s like breathing the rarified air of new top-level stuff 😁

My experience with bows has been more analogous to guitars than cars. I buy everything used cause I’m poor but good at fixing things, lol. A few years ago I went from a Bear arena to a Hoyt’s hyperforce. Both of which I bought 5 years old for a few hundred $$. Both bows would put 5 arrows in a softball at 60 yards, but the Bear never tuned well, and was maddeningly finicky. My first thought when I picked up the Hoyt and got it tuned was “oh, this archery thing isn’t so d@$n hard after all”. Suddenly I didn’t have to compensate for all the Bear’s shortcomings, and everything was easier. It’s like playing a $200 guitar for years, then picking up $2000 Taylor and realizing that your fingering doesn’t have to be so perfect - suddenly it’s a lot more fun to play.

[blackveltbowhunter]

Well,  you pretty much summed it up in your earlier post. A 300 dollar bow and a 3000 dollar bow will put arrow in the same hole with a shooting machine. The 3000 dollar bow will do it with a broadhead on the end of the arrow and set at its max poundage and draw length. With a little work it will even do it with a human running the show.

Im not suggesting that anyone NEEDS that ability. I would consider a hoyt hyperforce a flagship bow