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[JBar]

Thats it??? Did all you anti Shuttle T guys give up or what? Maybe Mik dontknow*censored* from the WDFW should have a picture of the T-loc as his screen saver.  Just kidding Mik!

XxX- Looks like you might be missing out on some BH sales, with the exception of Wapiti it looks like guys are split between the ST and and the Slick Tricks.

[xXx Archery]

no I sell the ST just not the new ones ....we really need to look at them...if someone could post a pic like the other pics....the back tip goes out more on them.

[SHANE(WA)]

+1 alwine

[JBar]

XxX - Dan also said the Terminal T-locs do the same 89* angle, it just looks different with the curve the back of the blade has. I'll see if I can post a pic of that one also.

[BobW]

Never said I was anti Shuttle T. I use them and didn't want to change. But also didn't want hassles for wardens.

By the way, we know each other. I helped you hold the black back drop when Mike took the pic of your bear half mount.

[T Taker Tech]

Both the Shuttle T- Lock broadheads and the new Terminal T-Lock broadheads were designed with the most conservative state regulations in mind.  Both broadheads angle toward the point and both broadheads have a smooth (note that the rule in WA says "smooth" not "straight") unbroken back edge.  Using the method shown in the picture, you can clearly illustrate that the max cutting diameter point of both broadheads is forward (toward the tip/away from the feathers) on both broadheads.  Feel free to do your own testing to confirm this.  Additionally, this test can easily be performed in the field using something as simple as a business card (any right angle straight edge will do) to illustrate that your broadhead is legal to any officer that is checking for compliance.

Trophy Taker welcomes any discussion from Washington Dept of Fish and Wildlife or any other state Game and Fish agency as it is important to us to distribute products that are legal and to equip our dealers and consumers with fair and accurate knowledge of the status of our products in their state.  However, it is equally important for said agencies to engage in fact finding before ruling on the legality of equipment.  Simply looking at a 3-D rendering of a product that is not pictured at a right angle and that is not pictured with an arrow shaft attached is an inadequate method of determining whether a blade angles forward, is at exactly 90 degrees or angles backward.  The Washington rules interpret the barbed definition in conjunction with an arrow shaft, therefore, it is imperative that an arrow shaft be attached to the broadhead to determine its status.  By referring to the photo you will clearly see that the Shuttle T-s angle forward and are in complete compliance with Washington law.

To my knowledge, the only reason that many states have barbless broadhead laws is to give the arrow the best chance of backing back out of a non lethal wound channel, thus giving the animal a better chance at survival.  I think it is a great law and quite frankly, I think that it should be a law in every state.  As individual hunters and as Game and Fish law enforcement officers, we should all ask the same question..."If this broadhead doesn't end up where it was intended to go, is there anything in the design of the product that will unreasonably obstruct it from falling back out?"  I am sure that is the intent behind the WA state law and the reason it specifies that the back edge be smooth and angled toward the tip.  It is a good law and one that both of our broadheads respect.

Here's an interesting point to think about....there are still a ton of broadheads on the market that are "legal" in the state that readily lose blades due to insufficient blade retention mechanisms on the head.  I find it ironic that broadheads that have superior blade retention capabilities like the Slick Trick, T-Locks, Wac'Em, Striker, etc come under consternation for being close to 90 degrees (notice I said close...each of the heads mentioned angle forward to the tip), yet you will rarely, if ever, lose blades with these heads...in fact, ours is the only one on the market that I know of that posts a guarantee on the package that you will not lose a blade!  Seems like it is a better option to have a head that is only slightly angled forward but will not leave it's cargo behind (aka blades) than it is to have a head that angles forward aggressively and yet loses blades every time it hits some really hard bone and leaves said blade inside animal...whether it is a lethal or non-lethal wound.  OK, I'll get off my soapbox now, I hope this clears up any confusion that might be stirring around out there.

We are happy to submit samples to the state departments for review and we welcome any feedback that you individually or the Washington Dept of Fish and Wildlife might have.  Feel free to contact me personally at:

jrlile@trophytaker.com
406-826-0600

Sincerely,


Jerrod Lile
Trophy Taker, Inc

[BULLBLASTER]

thanks for the good info and clarification!
the t locks fly outstanding and are a superior design.
i am glad they are legal to use, that way i am legal as a hunter because i was usin them anyways.

[hoytem]

sweet!

[WDFW-SUX]

Lawbreakers..

[JBar]

Thanks for the input Jarrod! You must have a better camera than I do or you know how to use it cause your pic is definitely better than the one I posted. You have a great product and I'm not about to stop using them!

JBar

[WAPITIHUNTER]

Bowhunters Superstore has 6 Wasp bullets for $28.95 if you buy 2 packs. You only get 3 Shuttle T's for $25-35. Hmmm Who did you say was going to the bank. Obviously I am with a bunch of xtra dough in MY pocket.

Lets see 1 dozen T's would cost you $100-140

1 dozen Wasp Bullets cost me $64 dollars including shipping. Oh and they really do fly just as good as any head out there. And they are as tough as any head out there. Maybe my addition or subtraction has an error in it somewhere but those numbers appear to look darn good to me. Every animal I have shot didn't know the difference that 1/8th in would make.

[WAPITIHUNTER]

 ONE TOUGH BROADHEAD

WASP's exclusive Stainless Smart Tip (SST) is one of the sharpest and strongest tip of any broadhead on the market. The Smart Tip is heat-treated to 42RC and crafted from 416 stainless steel, giving bowhunters maximum strength and
bone-splitting penetrations.

WASP technology pre-aligns the edges of the Trocar tip to the rise of the blades creating a straight cutting edge path that insures maximum penetration on all North American game.

WASP engineers, through the use of pyrotechnics, shot three HAMMER SST broadheads through 10 steel plates fashioned from the sides of 55 gallon drums – the equivalent to 5/16" total thickness – and all three broadheads penetrated and held together perfectly.

Tough? You decide!
 
   

 
 

[xXx Archery]

ONE TOUGH BROADHEAD

WASP's exclusive Stainless Smart Tip (SST) is one of the sharpest and strongest tip of any broadhead on the market. The Smart Tip is heat-treated to 42RC and crafted from 416 stainless steel, giving bowhunters maximum strength and
bone-splitting penetrations.

WASP technology pre-aligns the edges of the Trocar tip to the rise of the blades creating a straight cutting edge path that insures maximum penetration on all North American game.

WASP engineers, through the use of pyrotechnics, shot three HAMMER SST broadheads through 10 steel plates fashioned from the sides of 55 gallon drums – the equivalent to 5/16" total thickness – and all three broadheads penetrated and held together perfectly.

Tough? You decide!
 
   
LOL....I can copy and paste the marketing hype too
 
and I have shot the wasp heads they are good......BUT...not any better or tougher then other heads...thats all marketing hype.
 

[Turkeyman]

Thanks for clearing that up T Taker great broad head. Looks like us team Titan guys will be legal this year. SHUTTLE T ROCKS.

[WAPITIHUNTER]

ONE TOUGH BROADHEAD

WASP's exclusive Stainless Smart Tip (SST) is one of the sharpest and strongest tip of any broadhead on the market. The Smart Tip is heat-treated to 42RC and crafted from 416 stainless steel, giving bowhunters maximum strength and
bone-splitting penetrations.

WASP technology pre-aligns the edges of the Trocar tip to the rise of the blades creating a straight cutting edge path that insures maximum penetration on all North American game.

WASP engineers, through the use of pyrotechnics, shot three HAMMER SST broadheads through 10 steel plates fashioned from the sides of 55 gallon drums – the equivalent to 5/16" total thickness – and all three broadheads penetrated and held together perfectly.

Tough? You decide!
 
   
LOL....I can copy and paste the marketing hype too
 
and I have shot the wasp heads they are good......BUT...not any better or tougher then other heads...thats all marketing hype.
 

Hi man, I never said they were better I just said they were as tough and as accurate as anything else out there. The key here is cost. They really are a heck of alot cheaper. With the way the economy has been going I think it kindly to point out to the viewers that they can get great quality and great flying heads for half the price of the T's. Shoot, anyway what hunts you got lined up for this year? You probably saw I have the NS elk tag. Hope you guys have a great season and bag some nice trophies. Good hunting to all.