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there was not one salvageable piece of meet on this deer
I have a question for some of the more experienced folks out there...The 45-70 round is only 325 grain, any reason not to have a hotter load than that?
Gutpile you can be as skeptical as you want. This bullet exploded in this doe. You know when you shoot a duck and there are pellet paths through the breast with some feather and blood....well imagine that all the way through all 4 quarters and backstraps, it was like the cajun injector from hell. You can say i dont know what i am talking about and all that jazz, but if you were there you wouldn't wish that meat on your worst enemy.oh and here is his review on cabelas.com----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"LeverEvolution in 30-30 Win failed terribly upon impact with the intended target (whitetail doe). The shot was taken at 50-60 yards broadside and what should have been a near perfect double lung shot; the impact site was textbook placed. The deer was hit but continued to sprint some two hundred yards. Upon inspection I immediately noticed that there was no exit wound. Once the field dressing was initiated it was obvious that the bullet completely disintegrated. It literally exploded inside the deer. I found no less than a dozen identifiable bullet fragments and countless fragment trails throughout most of the internal organs. It looked as though the guts had been run through a blender. Intestinal matter was transferred by the exploding bullet throughout the deer and no meat whatsoever could be salvaged. I have never witnessed a hunting round fail so dramatically as this.I reported the incident to Hornady and they dismissed it, suggesting that I hit the paunch."Would you recommend this product to a friend? No "
but I bet it would be a "mild discomfort" to shoot.
Quote from: Greg4829 on November 12, 2009, 08:37:09 AM I have a question for some of the more experienced folks out there...The 45-70 round is only 325 grain, any reason not to have a hotter load than that? The only way for Hornady to give the flatter trajectory to make those long range shots so easy was with the 325gr bullet. I don't know how hard you would have to push a 400gr bullet to get that kind of trajectory, but I bet it would be a "mild discomfort" to shoot. Andrew
Gutpile you can be as skeptical as you want. This bullet exploded in this doe. You know when you shoot a duck and there are pellet paths through the breast with some feather and blood....well imagine that all the way through all 4 quarters and backstraps, it was like the cajun injector from hell. You can say i dont know what i am talking about and all that jazz, but if you were there you wouldn't wish that meat on your worst enemy.oh and here is his review on cabelas.comI love these rounds. But never shot an animal yet with them. I would like to know what grain of bullet he used that blew up this deer.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"LeverEvolution in 30-30 Win failed terribly upon impact with the intended target (whitetail doe). The shot was taken at 50-60 yards broadside and what should have been a near perfect double lung shot; the impact site was textbook placed. The deer was hit but continued to sprint some two hundred yards. Upon inspection I immediately noticed that there was no exit wound. Once the field dressing was initiated it was obvious that the bullet completely disintegrated. It literally exploded inside the deer. I found no less than a dozen identifiable bullet fragments and countless fragment trails throughout most of the internal organs. It looked as though the guts had been run through a blender. Intestinal matter was transferred by the exploding bullet throughout the deer and no meat whatsoever could be salvaged. I have never witnessed a hunting round fail so dramatically as this.I reported the incident to Hornady and they dismissed it, suggesting that I hit the paunch."Would you recommend this product to a friend? No "
I hit a little far back (open sites) and yes it turned the guts into soup just like you described.
QuoteI hit a little far back (open sites) and yes it turned the guts into soup just like you described.Gutpile please don't take this as any kind of bitching argument, I like constructive reviews of equipment. We can argue all day on where this guy hit the doe, so there is no point in arguing that, my question to you is in regards to the quote above. When you hit this pronghorn, was there an exit hole? Or was the soup due to fragmentation? Because if it did fragment with no exit hole then it failed. I may not be a ballistic expert like some of the members on here, but from what i was told and what I have read in magazines was that the job of a bullet for big game is to expand or mushroom inside of the animal while obtaining maximum weight, in short deform without breaking apart. Would you agree?
It might be easier to determine the reason if we knew what the cartridge, caliber and velocity was in this incident.
