Thanks guys, I know theres other posts on this . i just wanted freash input and photos, instead of archives this way everyone could get a good look at some rams . No doubt you gentleman have allready thaught me more than I could have hoped for. A freash post and talk on this can only help. I see a lot of the same photos of other animals on other posts , its ok . Just want to share my hunt with all our enthusiastic members . I gotta say I can hardly work these days I really hope to due huntwa proud. I promise that I wont boast or throw any garranty out there about a record archery ram , but With all your help my chances go way up. Sincerly Coach.