HOPE hunters vs. Corn pile Watchers

[boneaddict]

I don't think you are hijacking at all.  I think you stated it rather well what this threads intentions were in the first place, at least I think.  I'm not sure why he wanted to light a fire under us or admittedly intend to piss us off, but he succeeded and I followed up with making an ass out of myself.  I look back at it today and its pretty embarrassing really.  I'd just assume delete the whole thing, but there have been some great points made.  I can take some egg if it opens any eyes for the point you are making.   

[Wea300mag]

I have never been into drugs but the first two pages of this thread must be what it is like to be on drugs.

[actionshooter]

I have never been into drugs but the first two pages of this thread must be what it is like to be on drugs.

[LongTatLaw]

Hey 300... I dont think I was on drugs when I wrote it but it did take about 2.5 pages for you guys to unscrew whatever I was trying to start with and failed!

The overall point was lets support one another even if someone uses another technique than you choose. As in you stalk, I stand hunt, jimmy glasses, franky baits, Bobby hound hunts, and Ralph road hunts. As long as its legal and they respect the game... I support it all.

I started this thread from a crappy angle and luckily you boys and girl were able to weed through my crap and get me and my thread back on track.

I feel like...just like the info from the Alaska article posted above... these divisions between hunters based on techniques are wonderful ways to give Anti-hunters info on how to attack us...at are weakest points...which is where we disagree.

Its hard to think about but Ive seen TONS of comments on this forum and even one or two in this very thread that could greatly educate a non-hunter reading it on a place to attack hunting in WA.

I truly believe its the divisions like baiting versus stalking ect that allowed anti-hunters to get rid of most hound hunting in this state and others.

So... I dont road hunt... I dont take the soccer mom SUV up any roads that might get it dirty but let me tell ya... let someone start talking about placing legislation into action to make it unlawful to say...shoot within 200 yards of your vehicle... and watch me show my ass like no other!!  Does it exactly affect me? NO way...

Do I feel like any attack on hunting by  anti-hunter legislation indirectly affects me and my style of hunting... HELL YES! and Ill fight it all the way.

Thats what this thread is supposed to be about. I just started it very poorly.

thanks everyone for slogging through it to get at my point.

[actionshooter]

Unfoutunatley to many of our brothers looked the other way when baiting and houndhunting came to a vote. We took a really big hit in the overall picture of hunting.

[LongTatLaw]

I agree action...and in the end...the loss of any hunting right means we all lose collectively. I just "HOPE" we are better prepared to fight for one another next time!
dave

[billythekidrock]

Unfoutunatley to many of our brothers looked the other way when baiting and houndhunting came to a vote. We took a really big hit in the overall picture of hunting.

I agree and I blame the fishermen!
Just think of all the folks that only fish..if they had voted with us.

The thing that gets me is when the people who voted for the bans ask F&G for help. One I can remember was a small timber owner near Oakville. All his trees were being killed by bears and he was pretty pissed about it. When asked if he voted against the hound ban he said, " I can't remember".

You vote against, don't purchase licenses, or post your land then you should foot the bill for damages or F&G costs.

[LongTatLaw]

Oakville huh?

Thats where I killed my elk...but on private land...  the guy asked me to come and kill bears doing damage there...I went, never saw a bear or bear damage...killed my 5x5 elk...never went back... maybe i should have gave it more of my attention.

funny how people arent willing to look a little down the road and see how ur loss today could be my loss tomorrow. I cant believe the timber company didnt give the hound hunters a strong supporting hand. 

[Ray]

I'm all for hound hunting. I could care less if someone baited bears either.

Some other things I don't mind or care about if someone partakes in one way or the other:

Archery - traditional vs. modern
Muzzleloader hunting - old school vs. modern
semi auto rifles for hunting
road hunting
still hunting
spot and stalk hunting
canned hunts
trapping

I think that blind or still hunting is really good on birds but I couldn't bring myself to do it on large game. At least not yet. Also just because I don't do it doesn't mean I expect anyone else not to.

[LongTatLaw]

Im with ya huntwa...

Ill hunt field mice in a barrel with slingshots if someone will show me how...lol

[cohoho]

Field mice in a barrel, got to remember that one..................

I got to admit, I quit hunting over bait in Alaska,  ONLY BECAUSE I MOVED, darn it..... 

Last thing Tat, let me know when you'll be the guest host of Fox's, The O'Reily Spin Factor show....  I'll tune in....

Keeping it light................

[billythekidrock]

I cant believe the timber company didnt give the hound hunters a strong supporting hand.

They didn't have to openly support it as there were special provisions allowing the timber companies to use hounds.

[dbllunger]

I think advanced hunting is when a hunter applies game knowlege and hunting skills that require planning and continual effort.  Yes luck does apply, but knowlege and skill will always prevail.  I can catch a bass in a lake, but a pro can catch one in a mud puddle.  That is the difference.

[gray brow]

Amusing thread.  300 - pretty funny comment.

To salvage the time invested in reading the thread, I'll take away the notion that we hunters need to stick together and present a united front against those who would seek to take away our hunting privelages.  I remember when the antis went after the hound hunters and some of the folks I knew said "who cares?  We don't hunt with hounds". 

Well, the problem with that logic is that the antis don't care about hound hunting either.  Their goal is to ban all hunting.  They're simply borrowing a page out of the anti-gun strategic manual.

Get a ban on one form of hunting or type of gun, and you've got a precedence.  The proverbial slippery slope gets established.  Ridiculously simple but extremely effective against a group of hunters, gun owners, or whatever that can't see the forest for the trees.

[high country]

I love treestand hunters, after all I can keep track of them easily. I love road hunters, they keep the critters in my neck of the woods. I must say I wish I could buy a pair of leica's for the 800 ux you mentioned.