I got a 12 yrd shot on a doe that i couldn't pass last sunday morning. Had a monster 5x5 25-26 inch spread mulie hang 20 yards from my stand for 2 hours...mulie of course and was not open. Of course while tracking blood i jumped a 4x4 whitey then a monster 5x5. Would have loved to wait for a big boy but I have a new born at home so time is limited. Also my first archery deer so I cant complain