12 YR Old Girl Gun, Part 2.......

[Hornseeker]

1st off, thanks so much for all the good opinions on the other thread... Like I said, I am familiar with calibers and such as Ive been into balistics and such since I was 12 myself! But..I like to hear others opinions and get first hand info from folks who have little kids shooting!

I started with a winchest 94, open sight. That was in W. Washington and I was mainly shooting blacktails as 100 or less and bears at 15-30 feet (hounds)...

For my girls, living in Eastern MT...I definitely want to go with a scoped outfit

My next question is this...

I have a really nice old 30-06 that is NOT a heavy gun at all. I also have an adult, full size Rem 22-250.I LOVE the 06', as it is still what I carry today, just a Browning A-Bolt instead of the old M 721. (a bolt is no better, just newer.. )

What do you think? Light loads, lighter caliber bullets for that 30-06....get me low recoil for those girls?? I am actually pretty confident in the 22-250 also, as ik've killed several antelope and a couple deer with it....

Opinions!?

Thanks!

[Rgrady35]

If she is a good shot, I would go with the .22-250. I've killed lots of deer with mine. Then I moved to WA, ah well. I gave it to my brother in TX. Shot placement is the key to taking game humanely I think. Never lost a deer with the .22-250.

[satchel3006]

they make low recoil rounds for the .30-06 i think the recoil is suppsoed to be around that of a .30-30 might be worth a try. remington and federal both make the low recoil round

[Jamieb]

I've seen a few Sitkas shot with .224 TSX's in SE Alaska. I wouldn't have any problems using a 22-250 with a good bullet. Put the bullet in the right place and deer are going to die. The way the 22-250 with 50gr V-max's stops yotes I wish it was legal to use on deer here so I could legally give it a try.

[MtnMuley]

Shot placement is critical with the 250.  If they prove they can be consistant, maybe give it a try.  However, I would probably stick to the '06.  It can be pretty windy over there.

[257 Wby Mag]

Ernie, with todays boolits, the 250 would be a dandy. I've killed several with both the 250, and a 223, without designer boolits..

[Hornseeker]

Cool.

What do you guys know about reducing loads?

For example...I shoot my 06's with 59.5 grains of 4831 pushing a 168 grain Barnes...

Can I simply reduce a load as much as I want?? Can I load a 130 grain bullet in there (I know, the BC is crappy on that bullet/caliber but oh well)... with 40 grains of powder? Even though, in the book the minimum loads are about 50 grains? I'll maybe start a reduced load thread in the relaoder forum... is there a reloader forum??

That 22-250 is definitely a good choice...and wouldn't cost me a dime... On the other hand... I also would like to have some new rifles in the stalls... like a 243, or 257 or 7mm-08.... Ya know!

[dbllunger]

Do not reduce  a lot with 4831...use 4895 and you can reduce considerably more.  One powder is not a do all.  Check your reloading charts and it will show you.  I'm  confused if you can or want to buy a new rifle why not just do that in what ever caliber you want.  Light bullets are fine just consider quality.   

[Hornseeker]

Just looking at options DBL.... I would love to get her a new rifle...heck a Browning Micro Hunter in 7mm-08.... but saving $700 is also a good option... Just exploring options....

My main goal is to be patient and wait for a good used rifle to pop up over the next year or so.

Thanks

[woodswalker]

Do not reduce  a lot with 4831...use 4895 and you can reduce considerably more.  One powder is not a do all.  Check your reloading charts and it will show you.  I'm  confused if you can or want to buy a new rifle why not just do that in what ever caliber you want.  Light bullets are fine just consider quality.   

better yet go with 3031 or even one of the SR powders (no manuals at work to get exact powder)

Here is what Chuck HAwks had to say about it.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/reduced_recoil_reloads.htm

more data here: http://www.reloadammo.com/rel-powd.htm