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[AKBowman]

Anyone on this site ever killed an elk with archery tackle in 454?

[AKBowman]

...more particularly would be happy for a cow. I've heard up HWY18 there is some elk.

[bankwalker]

one of my fishing buddies got a cow out of unit 454 this year. but he wont give me the location.

[NWHydroprint]

Head towards Ravensdale the Mcdonald Mt area tough Hike but theres lots of elk there.
We used to hunt were the gravel pit is but don't know if they allow that anymore. Have seen lots of elk even seen a few monster bulls. Hunted that area for over twenty 20 years till I moved to Grays Harbor.
NWH

[Axle]

Cougars have been brutal on this unit. Extremely brutal!!! A few friends of mine used to live here and had elk in their yards all the time. When the cougars ate up most of the elk, they moved. (I still live here)

I've heard that it is a dumping grounds for problem cougars. Especially Taylor Mt., McDonald Mt., Rattlesnake ridge, and that is the area most want to hunt.

This area could produce the largest elk in the state if it weren't for the cats eating most of them up. There are a few that make it but they are very few.

[Galpster]

Lets get up there and kill em all. Talking about the kitties!!

[SGM R]

Some big country where a few good hounds would do some great things..

[Ray]

There's bulls and cows in 454. But there's a lot of private property. Seen a few good racks of ones killed in recent years. Ate some backstraps off one. Have not tagged one in this unit personally... Seems to me that if you have a spot which has frequent sightings and you have access then the chances will go up.

Access is king in 454.

[tmike]

"I've heard that it is a dumping grounds for problem cougars. Especially Taylor Mt., McDonald Mt., Rattlesnake ridge, and that is the area most want to hunt."

Just curious where you heard that  A couple years ago the the game department was trying to capture and collar cats in the Taylor Mt. area. In 454 you definetly have to be in the right place at the right time.

[mtbiker]

2008 season harvest numbers for 454: Deer = 256,  elk = 72.  Looks like a few ate well in '08.  I've spent sometime on Taylor and east of Ravensdale this season, but haven't see anything, yet.  So, I too would like to know where these critters are.  I'll be out all next week in 454 trying to track them down.

[Axle]

Just curious where you heard that   A couple years ago the the game department was trying to capture and collar cats in the Taylor Mt. area. In 454 you definetly have to be in the right place at the right time.

It is hear-say from people who live in the woods (I won't say exactly where. I wouldn't really want folks talking about me in an open forum without my permission). They have seen the elk diminish over the years and they have seen the cats increase and they have witnessed things that I will not repeat. They new the gamies and they can go on with stories.

They had a lot of elk around till the cats ate them up. They had the cats in their yard a lot and they can't keep pets due to them.

There were incredible numbers of elk in the '80s on Taylor, McDonald, and Rattlesnake, and I hunted them a bit but when the cats started to slaughter them, it only took a couple years. The few that survived were mostly the ones that found private land (ie, Hobart and North Bend).

A couple years ago my neighbor was looking for one of his dogs up on the east side of Tiger Mt. He ran into somebody on the back side that was in the process of treeing cougars on Tiger. They told my neighbor that they had treed three cats in the previous 4 weeks (all on the back side of Tiger Mt.) and one of them was known to them. It was in excess of 250lbs and roamed Tiger and Taylor.

I wish this unit was still like it was in the '80s.

[Galpster]

Sound to me like we need a good hunting party with some know how. I have never killed a kitty but would love to. Who wants to go up Taylor with a call and try to knock one down? I would be able to transport and supply the gas but have no idea on what call to use or how to get one to come in.

Anyone interested I would love to get this unit back to what it was with alot less predators on it.

PM me and lets get a hunting plan in action.

Is kittie hunting legal in this unit? I guess I better look that up first.

[Pazn25]

my uncle lives out in Ravensdale, he hunts near his house.  Private mostly but there are some public areas to go.  He has had alot of success seeing elk.  Sticking them is another story.  Last year he shot over the back of what a neighbor said was a 8X8 monster bull.  And this scared a nice one away this year with the frost. 

[tmike]

I was just curious about the cats because I was getting some of my MH hours to renew my certification by working with the game department on project CAT. They had some traps in that area we were checking to hopefully collar a few more. They are tracking them with GPS. They were struggling to get enough collared at that time. 454 is tough, needles in the haystack. The 3 bulls in my neighbors yard right now are tormenting me.   

[Axle]

They had some traps in that area we were checking to hopefully collar a few more.

*censored*s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they would kill them instead of putting collars on them, it would bring back the animals. Our game department loves predators more than deer and elk. I have no idea why they hate deer and elk. They will never be done with their studies. This is because they are stupid government-trained idiots. Those type of people will never learn. Especially from those who have gone before them. I really don't like stupid people (as you can see).

And to think - we pay these stupid idiots and they get things like nice trucks, good pay, and 'retirement pay' from us. Yet all they do is deplete the deer and elk herds with stupid management and stupid continuous studies!