2010 fresh water license

[Blacklab]

Just bought bro inlaw a fresh water license a gift for Bday 12/31 for 2010. They added a new charge for salmon fishing in the Columbia an it's tributaries. I for got what they'd called it but the new licenses cost $34.75.

[MAGhunter]

Yep, here is the email that the WDFW probably sent all or most people.

Dear Washington Angler,

Licenses for the 2010 license year (April 2010 - March 2011) will be available for purchase beginning December 1, 2009.

In April 2009, the Washington State Legislature passed into law the requirement beginning April 1, 2010, that any person 15 or older wishing to fish for salmon or steelhead on the Columbia River or its tributaries must have a Columbia River Salmon and Steelhead endorsement in addition to their fishing license.  The cost of the endorsement is $8.75 (all fees included) and can be purchased at a license dealer or online (https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov ).  The endorsement is good for the license year.  Revenue from the endorsement will be dedicated to supporting salmon and steelhead fisheries in those areas.

For more information about the Columbia River Salmon and Steelhead endorsement and to view a map that shows where the endorsement is required, please visit http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/crss_endorsement/

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

[tomy salami]

Just bought bro inlaw a fresh water license a gift for Bday 12/31 for 2010. They added a new charge for salmon fishing in the Columbia an it's tributaries. I for got what they'd called it but the new licenses cost $34.75.

The services we receive from the purchase of licenses is the worst value per dollar a sportsman can pay.

The mismanagement, the closing of hatcheries, the lack of enforcement in crowded fisheries, the lack of opportunity, and the lack of quality are enough to make a guy nauseous.

We get ripped off every year, while the state panders to the commercial and tribal fishermen.

Someday, I envision a mass act of civil disobedience, where we all refuse to buy licenses. Let them come and catch us, until they start giving us real value for the money we spend.

Licenses, tags, fees, permits, launch fees, ALL are forms of TAX..........and I thought taxation without representation was a no no.

   

[rougheye]

Just bought bro inlaw a fresh water license a gift for Bday 12/31 for 2010. They added a new charge for salmon fishing in the Columbia an it's tributaries. I for got what they'd called it but the new licenses cost $34.75.

The services we receive from the purchase of licenses is the worst value per dollar a sportsman can pay.

The mismanagement, the closing of hatcheries, the lack of enforcement in crowded fisheries, the lack of opportunity, and the lack of quality are enough to make a guy nauseous.

We get ripped off every year, while the state panders to the commercial and tribal fishermen.

Someday, I envision a mass act of civil disobedience, where we all refuse to buy licenses. Let them come and catch us, until they start giving us real value for the money we spend.

Licenses, tags, fees, permits, launch fees, ALL are forms of TAX..........and I thought taxation without representation was a no no.

   

   By the way its going to be ANOTHER record run this year . Hurry go buy your licence 

[grousetracker]

the state finds new ways every year to rip us off. there hasnt been a banner year for fish in many years and the fishermen arent givin a cheaper rate. man they suck!

[tomy salami]

Really? They are good at predicting those things?

A record number of pinks show up, and they want to keep all the newbies on the wagon. Keep the $$ flowin,  just to give us some flaccid excuse of why they did not show up.

............I had better git me one of dem dare lisenses. Freezer gonna be out of pink and chum fillets by springer season.

[tomy salami]

Last time I got popped, it was a ninety some odd dollar ticket.

Guy fishes for three years, stays away from the limited number of Walter Wardens, and he will be $$ ahead.

Civil Disobedience? ............I'm in.

[cohoho]

 
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Licenses, tags, fees, permits, launch fees, ALL are forms of TAX..........and I thought taxation without representation was a no no.
 
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If it stays within F & G, I don't have too much of a problem with it...  But the prices for launches come on, they are the best I have ever seen anywhere and most are pretty darn nice too.  Go visit Alaska and launch a boat, you'll appreciate the $2.00- $5.00 here for sure.  A couple we had there ,The Deshka Landing cost 27 bucks to launch a boat, Seward and Whittier were around 20-25 also.  Besides that there are launches almost everywhere also.  I think Washington and Oregon do a great job on launches and are about the friendliest boating state and someone has to cover the cost of up keep.

[BigGoonTuna]

as much as it irritates me to pay more for less opportunity, a license is still about as much as a tank of gas for my pickup, or a box of rifle ammo for some guys here.

the thing that really pisses me off is the garbage paper they print the licenses and parking permits on.  they used to be printed on tyvek and were pretty much indestructable.  now they're printed on the same stuff that your receipt from mcdonalds is.  they say "use a ball point pen only" but you're lucky if you can get one to write on that paper.  i bet if i pulled out my punch card today, i couldn't make out what i've got written on it, much less a game warden or a state bean counter!

don't get me started on the parking permits either...supposedly they were put in place to make sure that those who weren't hunting or fishing paid for wdfw area access.  of course, the only time they're patrolled is during hunting and fishing seasons, and the only guys that get popped are the ones that forget to put that stupid permit up on their dash!

[tomy salami]

I would love to pay for an Alaska license and their launch fee...........you get what you pay for up there. AK takes so much better care of their fishing resources than we do. Unlike WA, they actually are a destination to fish/hunt.

Alaska, Canada, and California all have better game management than WA. From what I have seen, Oregon, is sort of like WA.....can't comment about them.

We get ripped off, lied to, and given so little for the money we collectively pay. A license does not break most guys banks, especially when we got so much $$ into rigs/boats/gear. It sure is insulting though, when we are such a huge cog in the machine.

Until the state realizes what an economic force sportsmen really are, they will continue giving commercials/tribes courtesy reach arounds.

 

[BigGoonTuna]

alaska has a good manangement strategy:  net the fish coming back to BC, so in turn, BC takes our fish.

[cohoho]

What ever you do, PLEASE don't misunderstand my post as it is better here fishing than AK....   But after 10 years living there, I am not so sure Alaska Department of Fish and Game does this wonderful magnificent magic with their resources as people believe.  There is the same general crap going on there.  AK just has so many fish resources little dents don't hurt it at all.  Talk to some commercial guys and talk to guys that fish it alot there is the constant blame thing going on up there year after year.  As for launches, which was what my interject was, you got access here at at so many places you got to choose which launch to utilize... There we had so few State launches to utilize and a couple outrageous private ramps to dig into our pockets for.  As a prospective from someone coming up for a once a year trip 25 bucks is a drop in the bucket, but when your going out 20 times a month, it adds up is all that I am saying versus the 2-5 bucks here.   Your right for sure on until the state realizes what an economic force sportmen really and getting the tribes on a level playing field it will always be a mismanagement for sure. But has it changed for the better since you been fishing or steadily getting worse?  Are all the organizations out there helping or stirring the pot so much no ones listens anymore.  For discussions I have had with folks that fish the Columbia year after year it is better now then it was 10 years ago....

[tomy salami]

I am not sure the groups who try to get everyone to chip in their $25 do any good..........seems like same same politics to me.

I seriously am considering going back to not buying a license till they catch me. Where I fish, WDFW rarely visits, let alone provides any services there. Do they deserve to be paid for just about nothing?

If I do it for 3 years, I will have covered the ticket.

[cohoho]

I am not sure the groups who try to get everyone to chip in their $25 do any good..........seems like same same politics to me.

I seriously am considering going back to not buying a license till they catch me. Where I fish, WDFW rarely visits, let alone provides any services there. Do they deserve to be paid for just about nothing?

If I do it for 3 years, I will have covered the ticket.

Probably isn't the best approach to it.  From some of your posts your about gear and I bet every rod you got cost more than the fishing license for the year, right?  Yes, in regards to the Gamies, they deserve to be paid.  If your ever in accident who do you think will be there to assist and help you to safety.  With all the people that go totally unprepared a huge part of their budget no doubt goes towards missions like this and takes away from active patrols.   Gamies are no different than and other first responders doing their assigned job.  If the section manager decides he/she needs more enforcement in X spot, well they patrol that area more actively.  Sounds like you got a nice quiet spot, but come  on go spend the money and get your license and show us some pictures of the fish legally....

[fishseeker]

I am not sure the groups who try to get everyone to chip in their $25 do any good..........seems like same same politics to me.

I seriously am considering going back to not buying a license till they catch me. Where I fish, WDFW rarely visits, let alone provides any services there. Do they deserve to be paid for just about nothing?

If I do it for 3 years, I will have covered the ticket.

So you condone Poaching! Thats what you would be doing. No different than snagging,over limit,out of season. That lic. costs very little compared to the bennys you get from it. Those guys that are asking for the $25 ARE trying to make things better and thing would be alot wrose without them. And WDFW is where you fish. Every fish you get is there thanks to them! Just buy the damned lic. and quit whinning and go fishing! From an old fart!!!