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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2010, 05:11:43 PM »
Bear in mind folks, if the onlookers were a hungry crowd, it would have a totally different twist.
Since they have never had a hungry day in their lives, it is emotional feelings to them.

They were hungry - for the show.  Same reason people rubberneck at accident sites.  With today's technology of phones with cameras and video capability, now everybody gets to see it. And that video by the anti's shows that even the most unaware and simple-minded that walk the earth can provide the commentary.
You are right about it being emotional for them - they "get meat from the store - where it's made".  Trouble is, we can't cancel their vote because they are emotional about it.  Ever tried telling your wives what they were saying didn't count because they were "just being emotional?"  How'd that work out for ya? :chuckle:
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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2010, 05:12:41 PM »
Like James has said this has been going on for years and there has been nothing changed except for taking away the muzzle loader season.  What does fish and wildlife expect when they have a unit that is in some parts a mile wide and the two boundary markers are highways.  Shut it down for good and give out more nooksack tags.

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2010, 05:13:53 PM »
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Having a hard time believing that some of you can't see that.

Some people here have
1) made claims that objectors are apologists for the actions
2) suggested that the objectors are questioning legality of the actions
3) suggested that the objectors are more sympathetic to the animals than anti hunters are.
4) suggested without any basis that the hunters were harassed (a little more debatable but nothing backing it up).

Anything else people need to misrepresent? How about sticking to what was stated instead of making stuff up?

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2010, 05:15:43 PM »
The members on this forum are more concerned about pain and suffering of deer and elk than the antis really are.... :twocents:

That's beyond ridiculous. It is not based on anything factual.

I think bearpaw is saying they don't care a bit about animal pain and suffering, but more about advancing their agenda.  We try to ensure shot placement, proper equipment, etc., to ensure the quickest kill possile.  Correct me if I'm wrong, bearpaw?

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2010, 05:18:18 PM »
Point taken. I was honestly confused by that response.

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2010, 05:30:14 PM »
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I just watched the anti video, and I have seen the news footage before.

While I don't agree with the guys shooting those elk while a crowd watched, here is the first thing that popped into my mind when I started watching the elk being shot at again that were wounded:

If those bowhunters were wolves, the crowd would have been cheering them on, but since it was human bowhunters they are hated by the same people who would be cheering on the wolves.

It's not that those antis are so concerned about an animal suffering, they really could care less about deer and elk, that is just a smoke screen to accomplish there goal of keeping people from hunting. They hate society and people......

Like i said, throw a pack of wolves in the field and they woiuld be cheering while the elk were eaten alive....

That my friends is the sad truth

If you can get the footage of an animal going down at the jaws of a wolf, I would be happy to submit it to the same news station to see if they are willing to do a story or not?  My guess is that they would not show it, but the only way to see if they would air the footage.  I would be sure to send this youtube link with it to see if they would show the wild kingdom at work.

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2010, 05:33:05 PM »
Ethical or unethical we all can argue this till we turn blue in the face. I myself would have walk away my decision.
But lets not forget that everyone hunting was not breaking the law but everybody park on the side of the road did break the law in more than 1 way like parking on the side of a hiway all bystanders should either been told to move immediately or ticketed this would have lesson the impact to both hunters and the elk trying to escape the way they came in. The do gooders caused more problems by breaking the law.
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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2010, 05:33:18 PM »
The men hunting in these critters where not "hunters" IMO, they were fat ass lazy slobs that make all ethical hunters look bad.

TERRIBLE ethics displayed by these idiots. If anyone reads this and was a part of that you should hang your hunting boots up and move the hell out of WA
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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2010, 05:38:29 PM »
One thing is for sure this gave all hunter's a black eye in the minds of people that may not hunt but support hunting. I think the state really needs to find a better way to control the herd and the hunters need to take into account the perception towards our non hunting supporters. we cannot afford to loose those people.

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2010, 05:45:03 PM »
Like James has said this has been going on for years and there has been nothing changed except for taking away the muzzle loader season.  What does fish and wildlife expect when they have a unit that is in some parts a mile wide and the two boundary markers are highways.  Shut it down for good and give out more nooksack tags.
This is the kind of vidio work that got bear baiting and hound hunting shut down . The skagit hunt wasn't grafic enough so they threw in some other grafic sceens , probibly their own doing.  :dunno:
The vidio even made me sick, because of the thought of how horiabe it looks and sounds with all the lies in it.  :(

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2010, 06:21:16 PM »
They really threw a lot of extra drama into that, I'm with most in saying the hunt and the video were both BS.
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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2010, 06:44:32 PM »
Well i could seriously do some damage to those people. There own video's of those animals dying are the sick ones! They taped the doe dying in her own blood, and look at the shot placement! THOSE people should be, i dunno, this kinda thing pisses me off.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: >:( >:(
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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2010, 06:50:41 PM »
I feel that we support the WDFW, they did not support the community that support them,hunters. They should have stood behind the "hunt" addressing that it was a damage hunt to begin with. That the elk are ruining farmers way of making a living, destroying their personal land, costing them a lot of money repairing broken fences caused by the elk and also causing multiple car wrecks endangering humans. I feel the WDFW should have touched on not having the proper funding to handle the situation properly while they had the TV exposure instead of degrading the "hunt" that they "approved".

As far as the video goes that is just ignorant anti's that don't know that bow hunting is one of the oldest ways of hunting game. They also don't understand without hunting the animal population would explode spreading diseases like wild fire wiping out entire species.
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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2010, 07:35:06 PM »
it wasnt a hunt

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Re: Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2010, 11:00:10 PM »
I personally agree 100% and that is why I put "hunt". But that wasn't the point I was trying to make,it was that the WDFW cowardly backed down and didn't explain to the public why the "hunt" was even started in the first place.That could have maybe taken a little heat of the hunting community.

I don't agree with what went on but how are you supposed to thin a problem herd in 10-50 acre tracks and not have someone see it? Again if the WDFW talked about needed funds to transplant the elk instead of cower,maybe a bad situation could have turned out positive in the long run.
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