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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #165 on: May 10, 2009, 05:44:08 PM »
It about time they change the law, I have been breaking that law for years when I hunt alone or in unfamiliar country. My saftey is more important than some stupid law.

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #166 on: May 17, 2009, 10:38:09 PM »
I've read a couple of comments about people worried about getting attacked by Wolves...seriously? No seriously? Wolves? Come on...no one has ever gotten attacked by a wolf in the wild, ever. Cougars and bears are another story...last year I couldnt pack my entire dear out in in one trip and had to come back the next morning. I really wished I had some greater protection than my bow. Back in AK I never would archery hunt without a .44 its just not worth the risk and there are many of the same critters here in WA. In fact, I would rather be faced with a grizzly than a Lion any day. Bottom line is there is such a false sense of security we as Archery hunters have when in the woods, especially when we hunt alone and the situation can turn from hunting to survival in no time. I dont feel its worth gambling on something never happening to me. I would feel more comfortable being able to carry a pistol, not to mention it is my right. 
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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #167 on: May 18, 2009, 08:29:53 AM »
I've read a couple of comments about people worried about getting attacked by Wolves...seriously? No seriously? Wolves? Come on...no one has ever gotten attacked by a wolf in the wild, ever. Cougars and bears are another story...last year I couldnt pack my entire dear out in in one trip and had to come back the next morning. I really wished I had some greater protection than my bow. Back in AK I never would archery hunt without a .44 its just not worth the risk and there are many of the same critters here in WA. In fact, I would rather be faced with a grizzly than a Lion any day. Bottom line is there is such a false sense of security we as Archery hunters have when in the woods, especially when we hunt alone and the situation can turn from hunting to survival in no time. I dont feel its worth gambling on something never happening to me. I would feel more comfortable being able to carry a pistol, not to mention it is my right. 

actually people have got attacked by wolves, google it and im sure you'll find the story im thinking of. but by all means your right i think wolves shouldnt be a problem

i've never carried during bow season cause it hasnt been legal since i started, but i def wouldnt mind packing a small pistol

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #168 on: May 18, 2009, 09:53:25 AM »
I've read a couple of comments about people worried about getting attacked by Wolves...seriously? No seriously? Wolves? Come on...no one has ever gotten attacked by a wolf in the wild, ever. 

Sorry but that statement is wrong.

Wolves have attacked people.  People get the information confused when they are told that "wolves have never killed a human in North America" and it gets changed to "wolves have never attacked a human in North America".  It is very rare but with more and more wolves the chances get higher.  These are only the attacks that could be verified.  There are many attacks reported that are dismissed due to lack of evidence.  That doesnt mean they were not wolves it just means that who ever investigated couldnt/wouldnt confirm it was a wolf.
 
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID1CNsdw4NA[/youtube]


http://www.wildsentry.org/WolfAttack.html

"Recent Attacks in North America

     In Ontario, Canada where thousands of people visit Algonquin Provincial Park-and many of them come to see or hear wolves-five people have been bit in the past twelve years. During August 1996, a wolf dragged 12-year-old Zachariah Delventhal from his sleeping bag. This particular wolf, prior to attacking Zachariah, had entered campsites and taken things such as a backpack, tennis shoe and other human items. As we've been in contact with the Delventhal family, we can let Zachariah describe what happened. He wrote the following in November 1996:

     "The scariest night of my life… was the last night of a terrific 10-day camping trip at Algonquin Provincial Park in Ontario. We were exhausted and wanted to get out the next morning quickly so we decided to sleep under the stars. I remember dreaming that me, my mom, and my dad were walking through the woods. Then I felt pressure on my head and the woods started flying past. I awoke and still felt the pressure, but there was a new feeling of pain. I screamed, immediately the pressure released and the pain lessened. I opened my eyes-nothing but dark forest. I had been dragged six feet and I knew it was an animal mouth that did it. I yelled, 'Something bit me!' My mother came and held my sleeping bag to my face. Then my dad got up and started yelling. I got scared as he disappeared into the underbrush but he came back. I asked, 'What was it?' Then came two terrifying words, 'A wolf.' I immediately started to pull away from where I was dragged, I freaked. It was so scary and confusing at the same time. I didn't want to get eaten by such a strong animal. As for confusing, think about this-I had been told wolves don't attack people and here I was practically killed by one. My list of wounds is extensive. I had over 80 stitches to close the many cuts, my nose was broken in five places, I am missing a piece of my ear, my gums, and my tearduct and cheekbone were punctured. After all this, don't be scared to go in the woods, don't think of wolves as killers. The chances of getting attacked are so slim; I can't get a hold of the fact that I was attacked. My parents were wrong when they said wolves don't attack people, but wolves almost never do."

     Two years later, on September 25, 1998, another Algonquin wolf circled a little girl and despite blasts of pepper spray, didn't leave until the child entered a trailer. Two days after that, a nineteen-month-old boy sat playing in the middle of camp, with his parents twenty feet away. The father thought he saw a dog emerge from the brush. He turned away for a moment and when he looked back, he saw his son in the jaws of a wolf. The wolf held the boy for a moment and then tossed him three feet. A local newspaper quoted the parents, "It wasn't hit and run. He hit him [the infant] and then it was wait and see. He [the wolf] circled the picnic table a number of times before he was scared off enough to leave." The infant received two stitches for minor injuries.

Misinformation
At the end of one of the articles about the Yakutat incident, reporters Elizabeth Manning and Craig Medred wrote, "In Canada, at least one person has been killed by wolves in the past 50 years. A 24-year-old woman was attacked by a pack of five at the Haliburton Forest and Wildlife Reserve in Ontario in 1996." Had we not known about this incident, we would've come away believing that wild wolves killed the woman when in fact it was a captive pack. This is but one example among many, of how misinformation begets misperceptions that give rise to disproportionate fears.

     On April 26, 2000, a six and nine year old boy cut down small trees as they played at being loggers on the outskirts of a logging camp near Yakutat in southeastern Alaska.

     Upon seeing a wolf, the children fled. The wolf took down six-year-old John Stenglein and bit him on the back, legs and buttocks. A neighbor's golden retriever rushed to the rescue but the wolf drove the dog back and then set upon John again. The boy's cries brought adults who drove the wolf away. John received seven stitches and five surgical closure staples.

     During the evening of July 1, 2000, on the shores of Vargas Island, British Columbia, a wolf entered the campsite of a kayaking group. They chased the wolf away. Members of the group also spotted another wolf that apparently hung back from the bolder wolf. At 2 a.m., 23-year-old Scott Langevin awoke with a small dark wolf tugging on his sleeping bag. "I yelled to try to spook it off, and I kicked at it," Scott said. "It backed up a bit, but then it just lunged on top of me, and it started biting away through my sleeping bag."

     He rolled in an effort to situate the fire between him and the wolf, but the animal jumped on his back and bit him about the head. The noise woke his friends and they drove the wolf away. The wounds to Scott's head required 50 stitches.

     In all of the previous incidents, the offending wolves were killed. Autopsies indicated healthy animals."


http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=825_1198391329

Then there are those attacks that could be wolves that are blamed on bears or cats.  We will never know but those "wolf experts" are not trustworthy IMO because most of them are wolf conservationists that dont want any bad wolf press.
http://www.hcn.org/issues/315/16084

And just wait until they close down your favorite area because wolves might attack.  Lame!

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=10258162

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #169 on: May 18, 2009, 10:36:07 AM »
Something else to consider is that baiting and hound hunting are still legal in Canada.  Down here more hunters are turning to predator calls to get bears and cats to come in.  Predator calling gets aggressive animals a lot closer to hunters than any other hunting method.  As the wolf population gets higher there will be more close wolf encounters.  More encounters means more chances for some kind of confrontation.

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #170 on: May 18, 2009, 02:48:28 PM »
Ive had sabortoothed mountain beavers chase me..I have to agree wolves will attack you,rare but same with black bears and cougs.Ive called in a few deer I thought might stomp me

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« Reply #171 on: May 18, 2009, 07:04:23 PM »

wolf attacks... man worked him over good 

as wolf no# increase it will become more common, but the puppy lovers will do all they can to deny the facts      :bash: 
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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #172 on: May 27, 2009, 09:50:23 PM »
I liken carrying a pistol while in the woods(bowhunting or not) to buying certain kinds of insurance(homeowners, flood, earthquake, etc...). I likely will never need it, but will be glad I have it if I do need it.    I will choose to carry my insurance with me.

 


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