west side draw tag

[bobcat]

That would be one way to DECREASE draw odds for eastside bull permits. Many people only buy westside tags and hunt elk over here because it's not spike only like the eastside. But if it would increase elk numbers over here I'd be for it.

[SkookumHntr]

There is nothing wrong with the elk numbers from what I have seen! The last 3 years Ive never seen so many bulls, Big bulls and lots of branched bulls. low elk numbers is not even a problem!

[WDFW-SUX]

There is nothing wrong with the elk numbers from what I have seen! The last 3 years Ive never seen so many bulls, Big bulls and lots of branched bulls. low elk numbers is not even a problem!

X2

I've seen more good bulls in the last few years than I ever have before.

[Shootmoore]

There is nothing wrong with the elk numbers from what I have seen! The last 3 years Ive never seen so many bulls, Big bulls and lots of branched bulls. low elk numbers is not even a problem!

X2

I've seen more good bulls in the last few years than I ever have before.

x3  I usually always see some nice branch antlered bulls every year.  Of course the area I hunt the bio down there used to try and toss in restrictions every year saying the elk population was down.  Every year I see herds of 30-60 head.  Multiple branch antlered elk, and usually a good number of spikes and a great cow calf ratio.

Sometimes I think some of the bio's need to spend more time in the brush instead of figuring out how a population is doing on a computer.

Shootmoore

[MooseStock]

They won't do it because it would just make a "Branch Antlered" shooting gallery for the tribes...........or at least thats my opinion...........Les

[bobcat]

That's right...I always forget about the indian issue. No sense in managing our deer and elk the right way in this state as it will do no good. It would just mean more animals, and bigger animals for them, and less for us.  

[elksnout]

If the game department could prove the herds were suffering, and our bull and calf ratios are poor, then I could see it. But I do not believe this to be so, at least from my wanderings. During summer scouting trips I'll see 3-4 branched bulls to a herd. And this is in the Souixon were anyone can hunt on a general tag. If...... they did implement spike only you would hope the number of tags would be generous. But I realy feel this would just cause guys to hang it up, at least in this state.

[Galpster]

Imagine being in their shows. How difficult it must be to try to manage our wildlife when you have the native factor. It must be extremely difficult. I think they need to leave it as it is and in the next three years work on some rules for the natives. But we all know that isn't going to happen.

[elksnout]

Hey...lets just all hope this is indeed a rumor.

[bobcat]

At least it would give hunters more "choices" to apply for in the draw, which WAS one of the objectives the WDFW stated in their new proposal for the draw system this year. As it is, all a westside elk tag holder has to apply for is basically Margaret and Toutle. Now we can have bull permits in ALL the westside units!  It will give some of you a place to use your points that you've been saving up all these years!

[SkookumHntr]

I'm sure its *censored* but with are wdfw i wouldn't be surprised, there trying to ruin permit hunting, hell why not ruin the general hunts as well must be there mentality. I know that nature conservancy is the biggest anti hunting group out there and I'm starting to think they have some poll with wdfw. They have ruined 2 of my favorite hunting spots recently. I seen a ad for them in that northwest sportsmans magazine, who ever runs that magazine needs to be fired along with Dave ware with the wdfw!

[bobcat]

The Nature Conservancy is NOT an anti-hunting organization. I've looked at their website and they do a lot for wildlife. They've saved a lot of good wildlife habitat and they DO allow hunting on some of their properties.

[elksnout]

Yeah, it would open up more units to get tags. But we all know that as of now the lions share of the branched bulls taken in those units are raggies. 3, 4, 5 and small sixes. It would take a couple of years to get a decent population of the big dudes wouldn't it ? And if a guy could draw every 3-4 years that would be a darn site better that waiting 12-14 years for the Margret.

[SkookumHntr]

The Nature Conservancy is NOT an anti-hunting organization. I've looked at their website and they do a lot for wildlife. They've saved a lot of good wildlife habitat and they DO allow hunting on some of their properties.

Bobcat you are so out of touch on things its not even funny! And you think a statewide have to draw for permits to hunt branched bulls is good? Oh boy, just stick to your cow hunts there bud, every single comment you make is annoying or at least get a clue what your talking about!

[WDFW-SUX]

The Nature Conservancy is NOT an anti-hunting organization. I've looked at their website and they do a lot for wildlife. They've saved a lot of good wildlife habitat and they DO allow hunting on some of their properties.

Your wrong BC....sorry.  Ive had two places I like to hunt bought and closed by NC. Call them on the phone and talk to them about it. Friends of hunters they are not.

I was even told I couldnt pick mushrooms on some of there property one time.