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Washington assault weapons ban likely to fail
« on: January 24, 2010, 11:30:01 AM »
From Oregonlive.com.

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/01/tacoma_man_accused_of_road_rag.html

 Washington assault weapons ban likely to fail
By The Associated Press
January 24, 2010, 10:24AM
OLYMPIA, Wash.— After 2009 ended in a hail of high-profile gun violence, Washington state’s gun-control advocates are frustrated by an apparent lack of political support for an assault weapons ban, warning that the state will likely face more deadly shootings without it.

The bill comes just weeks after a spate of deadly police shootings, and proponents of the ban say those killings should force politicians to confront gun violence.

“There’s more guns, a repressed economy and a lot of angry people,” said Ralph Fascitelli, board chairman for state gun control group Washington Ceasefire. “You can’t sweep this problem under a rug. Apparently the shooting of eight police isn’t enough to confront gun violence in the state.”

The bill was named in honor of 18-year-old Aaron Sullivan, who was shot and killed by a SKS 7.62-caliber rifle in Seattle in July. The legislation focuses on “military-style” assault weapons, which can fire rapidly and carry large magazines of ammunition.

Similar bans have not fared well in the state Legislature in the past, and in an election year, supporters face a battle to even get the bill out of committee.
 
“I will do everything I can to pass this bill this year,” said Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, the sponsor of the bill and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. A hearing on the bill is scheduled for Tuesday.

Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, said she is mobilizing with other lawmakers against the bill. Since it was announced, her office has received more than 1,000 e-mails asking the Senate to defeat it, Roach said. “We’re going to do everything we can to make sure (Kline) doesn’t diminish the Second Amendment right,” she said.

The National Rifle Association and the Citizen’s Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms are also lobbying against it.

Alan Gottlieb, the director of the Citizen’s Committee and the Second Amendment Foundation, said he is confident the bill will fail. Not many Democrats, especially those in more conservative districts, want to come out against gun rights in an election year, he said.

“It’s extreme,” Gottlieb said. “I am kind of surprised they put it in, because it riles up our people.”
 
The bill could have a tough time getting out of Kline’s committee, which has five Democrats and three Republicans. One of the Democrats, Sen. Jim Hargrove of Hoquiam, says he will vote no.

Gov. Chris Gregoire said she has not reviewed the bill or closely followed its process, instead choosing to focus on the group of bills that came in response to recent police shooting, including better communication between law enforcement on jail bookings and releases, a review of the bail bonds system, and enhanced benefits for survivors of officers who die in the line of duty.

Sponsors said the bill is similar to the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. It would cover an array of different pistols, shotguns and rifles, including semiautomatic rifles with large ammunition magazines and pistol-grip stocks.

“We’re trying to protect the police, we’re trying to protect the youth and this is one step to prevent gun violence,” Fascitelli said.

Owners of weapons affected by the bill would be able to keep them if they allow the local sheriff’s department to inspect and make sure they are stored “safely and securely.” The weapons can still be used at firing ranges.

“We’re not going to take away anybody’s weapon,” Kline said. “There will be zero confiscation of weapons, but there will be no new weapons allowed.”

The bill has been endorsed by groups such as Washington Ceasefire, the International Association of Police Chiefs, the Jewish Federation of Seattle and the United African Political Action Committee, among others. Seattle police spokesman Mark Jamieson said the department has not taken a position on the bill.

Supporters also have referenced the murder of Seattle police officer Timothy Brenton, who was shot to death in his patrol car on Halloween. Police have said they found an assault rifle at the apartment of Christopher Monfort, the man charged with killing Brenton.

Four Lakewood police officers slain in November were shot with handguns, as were two Pierce County deputies who were ambushed in December. One of the deputies later died from his injuries.

Roach, however, said such high-profile gun crimes are not about the weapons that were used, but the people using them. The crimes show the need for people to defend themselves with firearms, she said.

“Trying to pull in sympathies of the tragedies that occurred recently does not address the underlying issue, which is someone being able to protect themselves in those situations,” Roach said.
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Re: Washington assault weapons ban likely to fail
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 11:58:25 AM »
Some things to take notice of in this report.

“There’s more guns, a repressed economy and a lot of angry people,” said Ralph Fascitelli, board chairman for state gun control group Washington Ceasefire. “You can’t sweep this problem under a rug. Apparently the shooting of eight police isn’t enough to confront gun violence in the state.”

Lot of angry people, but they are angry at the politicians, and the liberals.  There are several bills coming through that rightly direct attention towards the person behind the gun, not the tool used.  There bill does dick towards the issue of Eight Officers being killed.

"The bill was named in honor of 18-year-old Aaron Sullivan, who was shot and killed by a SKS 7.62-caliber rifle in Seattle in July. The legislation focuses on “military-style” assault weapons, which can fire rapidly and carry large magazines of ammunition."

A stock SKS with the removal of the flash suppressor would not fall under this bill as written.  That's what happens when you have people writing bills that don't know crap about there subject matter.

“We’re trying to protect the police, we’re trying to protect the youth and this is one step to prevent gun violence,” Fascitelli said."

No they are not trying to protect the police, they are trying to remove firearms from legal gun owners.  This law if passed will do nothing to make me safer, in fact I would guess that it would make me less safe.  As even though I am a lifelong member of the NRA, I wear a badge, which lumps me into being the face of crap legislation like this.  There are those on the edge, that may act out on there anger at loss of 2ND amendment rights, guess who takes the brunt of that anger, not Fascitelli or Kline.

A second note, "one step" should be noted.  For those that think hey It does not cover my old double.  One step on there overreaching goal of total ban.  They chip, chip away.  Although this one they are trying to chip out a large chunk.

"Sponsors said the bill is similar to the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. It would cover an array of different pistols, shotguns and rifles, including semiautomatic rifles with large ammunition magazines and pistol-grip stocks."

If you actually read the bill, it is far more reaching than the federal ban.  They are also basing this on a bill that had absolutely no affect on gun crimes.  Brilliant, keep trying to shove a square peg in a round hole. 

"Supporters also have referenced the murder of Seattle police officer Timothy Brenton, who was shot to death in his patrol car on Halloween. Police have said they found an assault rifle at the apartment of Christopher Monfort, the man charged with killing Brenton."

A firearm that is legal to purchase and possess in California under there extremely tight gun control laws.  Also a firearm that has never been used by any military that I know of, but is considered Military like?



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Re: Washington assault weapons ban likely to fail
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 07:38:36 PM »
No military in their right mind would use that hunk o' crap!





Oh but look, it has a folding stock and it's evil black!! :tup:

ps - the gun won't fire with the stock folded

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Re: Washington assault weapons ban likely to fail
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 11:00:23 PM »
That is the old model, the new ones stock folds in a different place and can be fired withit folded.  I think it is kinda cool.  8)
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Re: Washington assault weapons ban likely to fail
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 10:01:02 AM »
That is the old model, the new ones stock folds in a different place and can be fired withit folded.  I think it is kinda cool.  8)

Oops!  :rolleyes:

 


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