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Hollow points snagging in my .45
« on: February 03, 2010, 08:26:10 PM »
I have a Para Ordnance P-13 1911. I acquired some nasty hollow points from my cousin the other day. I went and did a little shooting last weekend and I decided to load a clip with them and try them out. When I went to jack in a round, it snagged and jammed on the feed ramp. When I got home, I took the gun apart and used a dremel and polished up the ramp. I put it all back together and tried again. The first attempt it fed, but not crisp. I ejected that round and tried again only to have it jam again. Any ideas? Kinda sucks to have a .45 and not be able to rely on it loaded with hp's. Thanks!
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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 08:29:31 PM »
Are they re-loads? I got a box of reloads from my dad and they did the same damn thing. went back to factory and never had a problem.
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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 08:33:25 PM »
some times reloads can be belled a little to much and its the case that catches on the feed ramp. that and 1911's can be picky. its probably not so much polishing as it is the angle of the feed ramp. my TRP eats everything 

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 08:35:36 PM »
You know I'm not sure. He bought them from some tactical shop in south Tacoma. I don't think they are but who knows. Looking at it when it jams, it looks like since the bullet is such an extreme hp, its definitely shorter in length than a normal .45. Since its almost squared off its like its too sharp to load correctly. They are in the safe at my dads. I might have to take a picture of one tomorrow and post on here so guys can get a better idea.
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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 08:36:57 PM »
some times reloads can be belled a little to much and its the case that catches on the feed ramp. that and 1911's can be picky. its probably not so much polishing as it is the angle of the feed ramp. my TRP eats everything 

Have guys ever modified their feed ramps? Its like it is too sharp of an angle. Seems like a guy could change the pitch slightly on it to make loading easier. :dunno:
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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 08:59:25 PM »
i know wth my springfield 1911 A-1 it was doing the same thing wth hornady self defense and remington's hollow points.. im just gonna stick wth a normal round instead of trying various hollow points.. too much money to be wasteing for trial and error.

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 09:40:00 PM »
what position is the bullet when it jams? is it nose into the feed ramp or sitting at the angle of the feed ramp and caught on the case? as far as modifying the ramp your self you could do more harm than good if you don't have the right tools a gauges. polishing is one thing but changing the ramp needs to be perfect

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 10:20:15 PM »
I had the same problem with my .40 and it turned out to be my reloads. I can't quited remember off the top of my head the exact measurement, but it was the depth I seated the bullet. Try to mic a round you know cycles correctly then mic one of the other rounds. I am no expert, just letting you know my expierence. Mine were semi wad cutters also.
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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2010, 11:12:29 PM »
I don't have time to type more right now!  But the last thing that should ever touch a feed ramp of any semi autoloader is a dremel tool!

Especially a 1911 or something that thinks its a 1911.

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 11:19:23 PM »
I don't have time to type more right now!  But the last thing that should ever touch a feed ramp of any semi autoloader is a dremel tool!

Especially a 1911 or something that thinks its a 1911.

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 11:52:21 PM »
i have the same thing happen in my 40 xdm with some wicked hollow points a little file work and no more probs for me.
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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 12:10:00 AM »
Does your Para have the aluminum frame?  The reason I ask is because I used to own a Kimber Tactical II with an aluminum frame, and you guessed it, an aluminum feed ramp.

I had no troubles until about round 400, I was shooting HPs and FMJs, and the HPs eventually wore a VERY tiny "smiley face" dent in the feed ramp.  It got so bad that it would choke when releasing the slide on a new mag of FMJs. 

I sent it to Kimber twice and they never could fix it.  I told the guy at the custom shop about the "dent" and he said "It doesn't really matter, I could drill a hole in the feed ramp and it wouldn't affect function".  I lost my confidence in their abilities after that one and got rid of it.

Other possibilities are if the COAL is different than what you're usually shooting, and of course, 1911's won't feed reliably unless the round is seated all the way back in the mag.

But the last thing that should ever touch a feed ramp of any semi autoloader is a dremel tool!

Bro, you sound like a gunsmith trying to discourage someone from performing an elementary task!



The one in the middle is perfect for a 1911 feed ramp, just use common sense!

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 05:29:57 AM »
I would pull the barrel and be sure the rounds are free in the chamber. I like to shoot gold dots in my 45's because the shape is so close to the super feeding RN's..........oh, and the terminal stuff.

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2010, 07:29:22 AM »
Must be that particular 13. I've had my P13 since 1995 and do not have any loading problems whatsoever. Tons of reload but only round nose, all HP has been MFR. Great pistol though.

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Re: Hollow points snagging in my .45
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2010, 10:05:08 AM »
Yeah, I didn't see any harm in using a polishing ball on my feed ramp. Now grinding or altering I wouldn't attempt. Ive read on numerous high end 1911 websites like Wilson Combat how they offer a "polished feed ramp" as an option. I'll probably stick to shooting round nose through it. I'll save the HP's for when I get my S&W 340 M&P .357 :chuckle:
Thanks for all the help/advice
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