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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 08:13:18 AM »
If you wouldn't agree to a camera on the street in front of your house, you shouldn't agree to one anywhere.  It is a slippery slope gentlemen.

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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 08:23:56 AM »
I'm with PolarBear on this one!  What kind of idiot/dip*censored*/notalent@$$clown finds a trailcame in the woods and thinks; "Man I better take this home and find the owner so they don't lose it!"...

What a crock of crap, throw some charges at his ass!  Some people don't think before they act...

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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2010, 08:42:01 AM »
There had been some thefts up a logging road and they did some damage to my uncle's equipment, so the forest service put a camera near a gate.  Day after he moved the grader out had a look at the pictures, they mentioned that he might pee the other direction next time... they had a good laugh about that.

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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 09:02:05 AM »

They've had them at closed road gates for years in Montana.  I knew a guy years ago (hell back in the early 90's) that had a habit of hooking a chain to the locks on those gates and getting the road open. :bdid:  He eneded up getting caught doing this by one of these camera's.  I feel they are a good thing personally.
I think the guy should have been able to drive on the road.  If the road was at all passable, they shouldn't have gated & locked the road in the first place.  Are you really ok with the government controlling where you can/can't go?
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2010, 09:22:55 AM »

They've had them at closed road gates for years in Montana.  I knew a guy years ago (hell back in the early 90's) that had a habit of hooking a chain to the locks on those gates and getting the road open. :bdid:  He eneded up getting caught doing this by one of these camera's.  I feel they are a good thing personally.
I think the guy should have been able to drive on the road.  If the road was at all passable, they shouldn't have gated & locked the road in the first place.  Are you really ok with the government controlling where you can/can't go?

I actually am ok with gated roads mostly because I am so tired of seeing so much trash in the woods...on second thought maybe we should all just dump our trash there seeing as its "our" public land........

and if the forest service can't have cameras in the woods then I think all private citizens also should be barred from using them.....again I really do not care....if you aren't breaking the rules then its sort of a non issue if you are growing tons of marijuana it might be a problem......

its interesting to me how we all see these things a little differently...like the people at work who do not see killing an animal to feed their family as poaching even if its out of season  :dunno:

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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2010, 09:31:05 AM »
I agree with the idea of arresting the guy for stealing the camera.  What the hell gave him the right to take someone elses camera? 

I've been saying for years that the County should be using cameras to catch people dumping junk (cars, refrigerators, couches, washers, dryers, etc.) along the road.  There is a wide spot on a county road a couple miles from my house that constantly is getting junk dumped there.  Time to get some cameras up and arrest these dirtbags that are costing the county a bunch of money by having to clean up that Pelosi that gets dumped there.
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2010, 11:26:01 AM »

They've had them at closed road gates for years in Montana.  I knew a guy years ago (hell back in the early 90's) that had a habit of hooking a chain to the locks on those gates and getting the road open. :bdid:  He eneded up getting caught doing this by one of these camera's.  I feel they are a good thing personally.
I think the guy should have been able to drive on the road.  If the road was at all passable, they shouldn't have gated & locked the road in the first place.  Are you really ok with the government controlling where you can/can't go?

Is this a serious question?  They close roads all the time back home with gates and leave them passable, sometimes it's so they can get in later to fight a fire if there is one.  When Moose hunting the Selkirk unit this past fall I walked a lot of gated roads that were fully passable, so they do it here in WA. as well.  Sometimes they close them for reasons of animal protection, such as area's that are traditional deer/elk calving/fawning areas, and then they re-open them after calving season.  And the government didn't control where we went, they simply controlled how we got there.

Do you think it's OK for me to drive my four wheeler anywhere on National forest land just because I can get it there?  I may not like them gating or closing roads, and I quite often think it's bullpucky when they do, but I don't look at it as if they "control" where I go, they are simply controlling how I get there.  Most often they close/gate roads for protection of animals for one reason or another, and yes, I am OK with that.
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2010, 11:29:40 AM »
there's cameras in the woods all over the place...
at trailheads for security, in the woods looking for wolves and other game, the forest service has them, the wdfw biologists have them, etc...they could be anywhere.

I agree with Goldtip.
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2010, 11:46:38 AM »
i dont like them, i read an article about them doing this in wa and they got pics of wolverines in the area i hunt. well anyone could have told you they were most likely there, but what i see is gonna happen is they close off areas to hunting just like what they have done in ea wa when they found a grizzly when they find pics of animals that are "endangered"

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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2010, 01:26:19 PM »
i dont like them, i read an article about them doing this in wa and they got pics of wolverines in the area i hunt. well anyone could have told you they were most likely there, but what i see is gonna happen is they close off areas to hunting just like what they have done in ea wa when they found a grizzly when they find pics of animals that are "endangered"

Have they actually closed area's to hunting in NE WA because of Grizzlies or just closed the driveable roads?  Cuz I hunted the hell outta the most NE unit in the state and didn't find any area's closed to hunting, I just couldn't drive into them.
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2010, 01:42:18 PM »
Gold tip is correct. The mainly control how you get there. I have seen areas closed for fire danger but I would rather have them closed for a little while than to have the area burned up. And they usually advertise areas closed pretty well. I actually think it is good that they have cameras out and can gather evidence against criminals. The worst thing they are going to get of me is taking a leak or dropping a pelosi. Something I am sure they would be happy to delete. Get it straight guys- don't break the law and you don't have to worry. That includes dumping garbage, busting gates, poaching, growing drugs, or STEALING CAMERAS,etc.
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2010, 01:50:11 PM »
Gold tip is correct. The mainly control how you get there. I have seen areas closed for fire danger but I would rather have them closed for a little while than to have the area burned up. And they usually advertise areas closed pretty well. I actually think it is good that they have cameras out and can gather evidence against criminals. The worst thing they are going to get of me is taking a leak or dropping a pelosi. Something I am sure they would be happy to delete. Get it straight guys- don't break the law and you don't have to worry. That includes dumping garbage, busting gates, poaching, growing drugs, or STEALING CAMERAS,etc.
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 01:53:31 PM »
I find it humorous anyone on this site complaining about using hidden cameras out in the woods? If that camera belonged to member on this site, there would be a full investigation :). Thus I agree with others "Leave the camera alone"!.  
I am all for authorities using what ever means necessary to catch any and all criminal/vandalism acts.
I do however believe there should be some thought to posting signs @ gates or trailheads stating "Someones watching". Just as most all public places are required to do. :twocents:
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 01:55:53 PM »
I find it humorous anyone on this site complaining about using hidden cameras out in the woods? If that camera belonged to member on this site, there would be a full investigation :). Thus I agree with others "Leave the camera alone"!.  
I am all for authorities using what ever means necessary to catch any and all criminal/vandalism acts.
I do however believe there should be some thought to posting signs @ gates or trailheads stating "Someones watching". Just as most all public places are required to do. :twocents:
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Re: Forrest service trail camera found! Guys pissed
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 07:44:25 PM »
In NE WA, the forest service uses trail cameras to catch wood thieves that are cutting firewood in areas that are closed to firewood cutting or that have active timber sales.  They have been setting the cameras up on the roads and getting pictures of empty trucks going in and full trucks coming out, with clear views of the liscence plate.  The same basic idea of the WDFW using cams to catch elk poachers.  If cameras help in catching illegal activity in a public place, then they have every right to use cameras.  It is in the end public ground, just like cameras on a street!     
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