pictures of dayton or lick creek country

[Raul Duke]

BBB has a point.
I've gotten to know the Dayton area over the last 3yrs. By driving up there after work and just taking diffrent trails/roads walking.

But there is alot of people that would rather just ask you for your honeyhole, rather than put in the time.

[MHWASH]

I understand not giving out any honey holes, but he's just asking for pics of the units. Thats pretty darn harmless. I've spent the last 10 years going down there and learning the area. It's no secret that there are a few nice bulls down there.

[BIGBULLBALLS]

I know it is no secret that there are big bulls in the blues.  What I am trying to say is get off your ass and scout.  If you like what you see and don't die of a heartatack while hiking then by all means apply for the hunt.  If you are lazy enough to apply for a hunt because the pictures look "elky" and you know big bulls have been killed in that unit without ever setting foot down there then go for it.  I guess i'm not pissed at the post but at the damn draw system that lets these *censored*s with 2 points (he may have more) draw a unit they have never been to and I have 10 and can't draw an archery tag to save my life 

[BLUEBULLS]

I would hope that people would atleast go look a unit over before putting in for it. I sure wouldn't put in for a tag because someone said the unit was good. Sure there have been some good bulls coming from these units but it's tough country and if you go in unprepared you might be disappointed. If you're in the wrong area, you might go days without seeing elk. If you do put in and draw, hopefully you'll spend plenty of time scouting and make it happen.

[WDFW Hates ME!!!]

So sometimes people should look at things from both sides of the argument instead of being stuck on there side. I will just explain a little, the guys that live and hunt the west side (ME) hunt the brush, and then we draw the multi tag so we can apply anywhere so we put in for Dayton (i didn't draw but what if i did). I don't hunt the east side but i have a ton of points and i am willing to hunt hard to find a BIG bull, we shoot mostly rag horns here in the brush. SO if i would have drawn that tag i would have scouted but it would cost me 200 in fuel every time i came over to scout, what is more effective? Come over 10 weekends scouting costing me 2000 in fuel or comming over 1-2 times and then doing some internet scouting.
And just because some *censored* as that has 2 points draws (it is luck of the draw still) doesn't mean they will not hunt hard or scout.
I have 12 points and can't draw but i realize it is still luck of the draw. People bitch about the draw system but nobody has come up with a realistic change to our draw system (remember life isn't fair) And i havn't drawn a tag either but i could. I put in for colorado elk and we will be going next year. Guess what, we have never been there and we will be doing some internet scouting there to.

[BLUEBULLS]

internet scouting is a lot like a hunting game on your computer.... it's not what hunting and scouting are all about. To me, scouting the area, and learning the area myself is just as big a part of the hunt as killing an animal. I take a lot of pride in my abilities and accomplishments of finding areas and finding game. I wouldn't be near as humble or proud if someone else did it for me. I don't have a lot of money but hunting related activities are important enough to me that I make things work.

As far as internet scouting, yeah, it shortens the process and it's dirt cheap but I gaurantee that you will not get the satisfaction and sense of accomplishment that I do.

please don't take this the wrong way. I don't see a problem with others doing it but it's not for me.

[WDFW Hates ME!!!]

Oh i won't take it the wrong way, i am just not going to spend thousands of dollars and spend weeks and weeks off of work to learn a hunt i may never get drawn in. It is the same for the east side guys that put in on a hope and prayer that they draw margaret and then ask for advice.
The way i feel about it is there is so few tags to draw that if you want info on a special permit hunt that has no general hunt then i have no honey holes there because i can't hunt it either.

Sorry for the hijack of the thread. But it seams like people are pissed because they cant draw a tag. Well at least you have a chance to draw every year. The best units in oregon and colorado (examples right off the top of my head) you will never draw unless you have max points. You can put in for them but you have no chance. Even with max points it will take 35 years to cycle through the guys with max points in wenaha or mill creek in oregon. I like our point system and i have never been drawn, but i have a chance.
In colorado we started puting in 7 years ago and it took 12 points at that time to draw units 1,2, 201, 210 now you are at 20 points to draw them. Could you imagine trying to get into big game hunting in colorado right now with no points.

[CJ-5]

I was enjoying looking at these pictures and this thread until it turned into yet another bashing session, like many other threads on here tend to turn into.  I agee with MHWASH, get off your high horse BBB!  The guy asked for pictures, not anything more specific, big friggin deal!! People get on here and bitch about others asking questions like they have never asked for any help before.  I understand your argument BBB, but who are you to just throw out comments like "assjockey and "*censored*" in reference to other hunters or people who have fewer points than yourself.  Way to ruin a perfectly good thread and make something out of nothing. 

[jackelope]

for a lot of folks internet scouting has become part of the game. There's numerous steps to the scouting process. Hell at least it's May and not september, right?
BigBullBalls...you ought to get off your high horse. I suppose you were never an *censored* with 2 points, ehh? would you consider yourself an *censored* if you drew with 2 points? good gravy man, grow up!!

I haven't heard about a big bull coming out of Lick Creek ever.

[Gutpile]

Wow. This site has really changed over the years. I can see getting excited if it's a week before the season but not this early. Whats wrong with wanting to see pics of an area he's never been to before. Maybe he just wants to see if it's steep and deep so he can get away from hunters. Maybe he just wants to see if it's thick or sparse. Sorry BBB but you jumped the gun on this one. If it were right before the season I'd definately be on your side but prior to even applying for the hunt? I think you should have at least left some of the name calling out of your post.


I hunt unit 139 for deer and the whole unit is private. Every year people get on here a week before the season and want to know where to go since they've never been there. It even says it's private in the regs. That irritates me to no end to not get drawn in a unit in which you have permission and then someone who not only has never been there before but also has no permission does get drawn. So I see what your saying but it's just too early to be that pissed about some pictures.

 

[BIGBULLBALLS]

Yes, at one point I was an *censored* with 2 points but I knew what I was applying for and had scouted the area except for once.  I was definitly an *censored* when I applied for the Quilomene late archery tag and drew without ever setting foot in the unit, I had just heard it was good.  I took my lumps on that hunt and learned a lesson.  The best hunting in the state is the GMU you know the best.  

And what is this about the high horse?  I am just sick of people who want to just ride the coattails of those of us who have put in the leg work.  If you hear about a great area then go check it out (maps, harvest reports, aerial photos, talk to the bio, bull to cow ratios, foot work, ect...). I am sure most of the folks on this site have put their time in on the units they hunt and the areas they apply for.  Apparently i'm the only one who has a hard time with a guy who wants to make his application decision based on photographs of a unit he has never been to.  

[head hunter]

I have a hard time figuring out why people even posted pics. I believe in laying the boot leather down before I start looking for handouts, I'm with BBB

[B.G.hunter]

I see the points all of you are making on the internet scouting.  I don't think a few pictures should make or break if a person should apply for a unit.  I do believe that they should inspire ridgefire to get a map and maybe plan a trip to scout the unit.  As a suggestion I will say that if you are going to hunt archery lick creek is open to antlerless or spike OTC, and dayton is spike only, please hunt one of these before applying for a any bull tag.  and by the way i am sorry for questioning your photograph jackelope i have never thought of looking a the lick creek unit from that angle.

[3dvapor]

i thought that was one of the great things about this site, guys were able to share and gain knowledge about where and when to hunt.  the guys that helped me last year i owe big time and told them that im willing to share any and all information i have about any of the units i currrently hunt.

[jackelope]

I guess some people are just a lot better at this stuff than others.
Take that for whatever you think it means...there's a couple possible meanings.