Wolves,“It is like having several terrorists in your back yard.”

[wolfbait]

 Four wolves killed 85 sheep in central Idaho in one weekend. But, “they only kill the sick ones.” They only "balance" Mother Nature. They don't kill for "sport." It is "important" that they be reintroduced back to where a wiser generation eradicated them. They "don't" reduce game populations. They aren't "dangerous" to people. And so the Defenders of Wildlife and their U.S. Fish & Wildlife partners tuck us all into bed.
Wolves are on the verge of spreading like wildfire across the country. Between all the protection and unoccupied (by large canid competitors) habitat, and an ability to morph and adapt [that is] even greater than their more solitary coyote cousins, they will spread like ink on a pane of glass.
Wolves WILL reduce deer, elk, moose, rabbits, coyotes, foxes, domestic dogs, horses, sheep, calves (and an occasional cow), and yes, they will be a danger to unaccompanied children and older people under certain circumstances. They will learn to come into mall garbage sites for food scraps in the evening. They WILL follow deer into housing areas in the winter and be a hazard to dogs and schoolchildren. They -- like the increasingly unmanaged and no-longer-harassed bears and cougars -- WILL grow bolder around people and eventually attack adult joggers on trails or old folks walking their dog or kids playing in a park.
And all the while … newspapers and TV folks will swallow and regurgitate the pap served up by the animal rights cults that [say] wolves; like sharks, cougars, and bears “don't do that.” That people are "in their habitat." That the savaged person "behaved" incorrectly. That their habitat should be "saved", and people, homes and roads removed. That they have important “functions” in the ecosystem. Like the turkeys that were once claimed to “need” virgin forests -- or the Canada geese that were once said to be able to breed only in far northern marshes -- wolves will prove just how ignorant we are about their capabilities and “needs.”
The latest sleeping pill about what is happening, is that places outside current “critical habitats” can manage the arriving wolves without Federal control (‘at this time’). Ah yes, like including “local governments” in planning committees, we are assuaged. We are calmed by the “fact” that -- although 5 or 6 western states are having a lot of trouble -- it won’t be like that for “us.” As Bugs Bunny used to whisper, “Sucker!”
As wolves spread, there will be an outcry when Senator Claghorn’s 10-year-old golden retriever has her throat torn out, inside her invisible fence as she looks for a place to urinate before coming in to bed.
There will be an outcry when the elementary school kid in the snow, or the high school athlete jogging through the woods, or the widow looking for her cat behind the shed, bump into and are harmed -- or worse -- by one or more wolves.
Then Defenders and US Fish & Wildlife Service will say [that] they are the state’s wolves, go [hollering and screaming] to them. And people will.
The state will lie and propagandize about how this is the result of past hunting and environmental ignorance until they notice that people aren’t swallowing anymore and then the fun begins.
 [The state will then] explain that they can’t use poisons anymore (EPA ‘prohibits’ it).
They can’t use planes anymore, (Aerial Hunting Act prohibits it). The Federal “trappers” don’t do this sort of thing [when it happens] off Federal land.
Traps can’t be used because of state laws, or because dogs will get in them [or some other excuse]. Of course you can’t hunt or trap wolves in National Parks or National Wildlife Refuges or in State Parks or State Refuges or Natural Areas. The National Forests and Bureau of Land Management will ‘have’ to do individual EIS’s and ‘they expect a long court battle’.
And many landowners will prohibit any wolf control on their land to “protect” the wolves and their environment. And certain cities and towns will prohibit any control within their boundaries. And the state doesn’t have any money for all this. And on and on and on… It will be like having a concealed weapons permit but you ‘can’t’ leave it in the car or have it near a school or church or park or recreation building or government building or place that serves liquor (i.e., most restaurants) or … fill in the blank.
And no one will have an answer.
And the state will shrug.
The Defenders of Wildlife will smile.
The Federal bureaucrats will refigure their retirement for the third time that day.
The politicians will offer to “help” by spending more of your money to go through meaningless wolf control motions for years and years. Hunting and trapping will suffer but government land acquisition and government programs will prosper.
And your grandkids will be taught how some callous people at one time resisted the restoration of a native ecosystem. When they ask you who they were, you will answer that you didn’t know any of them.
The time to stop this was the first session of Congress (15 years ago) that refused to reauthorize the Endangered Species Act. As long as that Act continues, the problems will proliferate and answers will become more and more remote.
Pressure is needed from determined citizens.
Politicians with honesty and strength of character must be elected to rewrite -- or annul -- laws.
Judges determined to uphold Constitutional values must be appointed. …
The price is way too high, [just] so someone can say they heard a wolf howl on the way home from the bus.

Please read the rest!

http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/2004/articles11/my_official_oregon_wolf.htm
 

[carpsniperg2]

another fine post wolfbait even though it does get the blood pressure up a bit

[bearpaw]

good post wolfbait...

In a phone conversation with another wolf management advocate I made this statement today!

Wolves themselves are doing more than anyone is to educate people about what is going on!

What I meant is that with all the livestock problems and the destruction of game herds, the publicity is getting out about wolves, the truth is being exposed, people are getting a belly full of wolves, people are really starting to demand more of their management agencies. 

[Sporting_Man]

good post wolfbait...

In a phone conversation with another wolf management advocate I made this statement today!

Wolves themselves are doing more than anyone is to educate people about what is going on!

What I meant is that with all the livestock problems and the destruction of game herds, the publicity is getting out about wolves, the truth is being exposed, people are getting a belly full of wolves, people are really starting to demand more of their management agencies. 

Exactly, they will be pestering and anoying the general public in months to come, because wolf is a wolf, and can not be good behaving dogie like they anticipated at first. You guys are doing a good job exposing this... Hope I can help more than just with my attaboy words from the big city...

[denali]

Thanks wolfbait

found this on a pro wolf site  17,000 wolves enough   

Bergstrom et al. go on to say that, “Although 1600 wolves may possibly allow adequate connectivity and genetic exchange to sustain the metapopulation, the population numbers proposed under Idaho and Montana’s management plans do not.  The best-case scenario is the loss of nearly half the population-a substantial population bottleneck. *** The unregulated harvests…will disrupt pack structure…”  They analyzed population viability using harvest levels of 600 animals out of an approximate population size of 1500, and in 100 percent of their simulations, the population declined to extinction in less than 10 years.

Bergstrom et al. note that the NRM Distinct Population Segment (DPS) now has a density of about 5.5 wolves per 1000km2, although the density of wolves on Yelllowstone’s northern range reached 50 per 1000km2 in 2002.  They cite Carroll et al. (2006), saying that a density of wolves similar to that of Minnesota’s proposed density of 18 wolves per 1000km2 across suitable habitat in the NRM DPS would equal a metapopulation exceeding 17,000. 

[haus]

natures balance is imbalance. Natural equalibrium is a modern day 'scientific' pipe dream.

[wolfbait]

The real intent and scope of siccing non-native large predators on folks in Oregon (and other states, but we’re focused on Oregon for these comments). Call it The Wildlands Project, ‘rewilding’, ‘protection’, or ‘restoration’, it is, bottom line, a ‘Plan’ to retake America’s natural resources and put them in the hands of a very few ‘power brokers’. Certainly it is a conspiracy! What else would you call a ‘Plan’, scheme, etc., that intends to defraud an honorable nation of people and reduce them to serfs? This is the same modus operandi that drove people from England and Europe and brought them to America’s shores – the need to have their own property and their own ability to be, in today’s buzzword and in the REAL meaning: sustainable. This means being self-sufficient, versatile, innovative, of keen mind and willing heart.

 

I venture to say that few -- and fewer every day -- federal employees have any of these qualities, qualities that are inherent in the responsible American resource provider and private property owner. Using a deception like ‘re’ introduction of wolves that are not native and are being used under the ruse of ‘rewilding’ or ‘restoring’ something ‘endangered’, in and of itself CREATES ACTUAL endangered species. In my own rural Ohio neighborhood, these REAL endangered species are called farmers. In Oregon, they are known as farmers, loggers, miners, ranchers, commercial fishermen and recreationists. The whole gamut is targeted for extinction, and the tools of the trade being used by U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service are: spotted owls, suckerfish, wolves, etc.

http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/2004/articles11/my_official_oregon_wolf.htm


Wild Earth Guardians launches rural cleansing campaign against Gila residents and ranching
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WildEarth Guardians wants to secure lasting and landmark protection for the endangered wildlands and wildlife of the Gila Bioregion in southwestern New Mexico and southeastern Arizona. Our vision is a healthy population of wolves surrounded by millions of acres of newly designated wilderness. Eventually we believe that America’s first Wilderness Area should become its next great National Park or National Monument. How could such a bold vision come to fruition? Come find out about WildEarth Guardians’ strategy to lead the way in protecting the Gila. We look forward to a great conversation! Please RSVP to Carol Norton, 505-988-9126, ext. 1150 or cnorton@wildearthguardians.org.


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[haus]

Yep ESA listings are a political tool. It's original intent went by the way side years ago. These days its used to exact federal regulation upon private property owners and in many cases state governments.

[bearpaw]