the binos showed up today. optically they are incredible. I will have to wait for the light to die down to get the full lowdown, but you can bet they will run with any hd bino on the market. the armor sux, the eye pieces rock the obj covers are the best I have seen, they are long and big for a 8x32, but not too awful heavy. the diopeter adj is like the leica, they come with winged eye cups to add on.....I will get more serious....but off to scout some bark eaters!