Taking a doe (w/fawn) or cow (w/calf)?

[blacktail luv]

Shoot a cow or a doe is like making love to ur sister.

[Michelle_Nelson]

You have experiance in both I take it?

[PolarBear]

 

[Superhunter333]

i did a little research and most biologist say a fawn can survive without its mother after 6 months but stays with her purely as a social behavior when i first read this post i was appalled that someone would shoot a doe with fawn growing up that was a big no no but after doing some research I'm less inclined to judge. i dont know if ill ever be faced with this decision cause i only shoot big bucks  ha ha just kidding 

[huntnnw]

Also they studied orphaned fawns, buck fawns will live the rest of their life in the general area. A buck fawn who is booted away by mama would range in the study from 1 to 19 miles with an avg of 3-5 miles away it would call home. If u have large tracts of land that u mangae, it would be wise to shoot does with button fawns in the early season.

[krout81]

You have experiance in both I take it?

i did a little research and most biologist say a fawn can survive without its mother after 6 months but stays with her purely as a social behavior when i first read this post i was appalled that someone would shoot a doe with fawn growing up that was a big no no but after doing some research I'm less inclined to judge. i dont know if ill ever be faced with this decision cause i only shoot big bucks  ha ha just kidding 

Intersting info I have shot several does in the late season and a few have had fawns.  My dad always told me that the fawns would be fine never looked into it for myself.  I have shot a few fawns and even a spike or 2 in the late season and boy they taste great.  I supose I just dont like the fact of paying for a tag, buying all the gas and food, and using my vacation time without getting something in return.  I have done enough of that in early elk season.  TAG SOUP YUUUUUUUKKKKKKK   

[PolarBear]

Tag soup can still be very satisfying if you stick to your goals and don't compromise.  To quote a line from a Deep Purple song, "it's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase".

[krout81]

 

Tag soup can still be very satisfying if you stick to your goals and don't compromise.  To quote a line from a Deep Purple song, "it's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase".

I get the same rush shooting any animal, for me its about getting close enough and putting an arrow into the sweet spot.  If its a cow or a doe then so be it.

[ICEMAN]

You have experiance in both I take it?

 

 

[longknife]

Incorrect. They can double there numbers in a year. They do not reproduce twice a year. They breed once a year and have 1-3 fawns once a year.

I like how you know it all, they can have up to 4 does a year.
 I stated i had messed up my wording. They have 2 estrus cycles in one year. Elk have one.
By no means am i giving any indians a plug, but isnt that what the native americans used to do, was target the young? Better tasting, and it wont be long, and the cow, or doe can still reproduce the following year

[runamuk]

Incorrect. They can double there numbers in a year. They do not reproduce twice a year. They breed once a year and have 1-3 fawns once a year.

I like how you know it all, they can have up to 4 does a year.
 I stated i had messed up my wording. They have 2 estrus cycles in one year. Elk have one.
By no means am i giving any indians a plug, but isnt that what the native americans used to do, was target the young? Better tasting, and it wont be long, and the cow, or doe can still reproduce the following year

gonna have to say you are wrong I am a bit of an animal repro fanatic and deer are much like goats and sheep similar cycles and similar gestation etc...deer may cycle at the beginning of the breeding season and miss and cycle again late and catch...however there is no way a doe has two gestations in a year its not probable...will leave a possibilty that someone can find some doe in a zoo who did.  Now deer like sheep and goats normall have singles to twins with triplets on occasion and yes 4 is possible but not probable the toll it takes on a doe to raise singles and twins is enough quads would likely end in one of the quads dying due to being a runt.

I was raising a breed of prolific sheep that had litters and could breed more than once a year they cycled more frequently than just fall.....even with my best ewe under ideal circumstances I could only get 3 lambings in 2 years so a sheep in a perfect setting no predators lots of food and shelter can barely do that a deer in the wild is gonna have a rough go of it with just the once a year....they are built like this to aid in survival...we humans manipulate animals and nature to our convenience and it isn't always to the benefit of the species...

[bow_hunter44]

I grew up on a sheep ranch.  We had a few, (count them on one hand) quads during lambing.  A rare occurrence to say the least.  Estrus is seasonal only (in the fall, with the exception of an exotic breed or two).  Not necessarily one estrus, a sheep (or a deer) can cycle more than once a year if they don't catch on their first cycle.

I have taken a doe or two and a cow elk (singular).  I have seen lots of orphaned lambs.  They have a tough time of survival, to say the least.  Yes they can make it, but it is tough.  I would say that the chances of a fawn or a calf orphaned in the wild (spots or no) would have, at best, a slim chance of survival.  So, given the opportunity to take a doe or a cow carrying a little one - I would pass.

[longknife]

I guess im wrong, i will go back to school 

[tip]

hmm...I have no problem taking a doe, you can't eat antlers.  But that's just me...

That being said, I wouldn't take a doe w/ a fawn or cow w/ calf.

[addicted]

Over here where we have no tags or bag limits it is very common to take a doe with a fawn or a cow with a calf. The important thing is that you shoot the calf/fawn before the momma in case it runs away.

In WA i would probably just pass.