What is the difference.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

After reading some posts, and seeing the scores of some of these Blacktails, I looked up the top 10 Washington Blacktails.
They have different categories...
 - Cascade Blacktail Deer
 - Columbian Blacktail Deer
 - Western Blacktail Deer
I know the difference between Cascade  and  Columbian, but what is a " Western Blacktail Deer" ?
Some of the counties are the same, just the "Columbians"s seem bigger racked.  
http://www.nwbiggame.com/top_10.cfm

[grundy53]

Actually western are usually the smallest racks. They are the coastal BT's and have no mule deer genetics

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Ooops, I got it backwards.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

But because they are in the same counties, how are they differentiated?

[grundy53]

I'm pretty sure I-5 is the boundry for western and Columbian.... don't know about cascade.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Actually western are usually the smallest racks. They are the coastal BT's and have no mule deer genetics

Also, according to the Bio's
A Mule deer is the result of Blacktail/whitetail, and so a Blacktail would not have "Mule Deer" genetics.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I'm pretty sure I-5 is the boundry for western and Columbian.... don't know about cascade.

Also, they BOTH have records in Pacific and Grays Harbor Counties, nowhere near I-5

[grundy53]

Actually western are usually the smallest racks. They are the coastal BT's and have no mule deer genetics

Also, according to the Bio's
A Mule deer is the result of Blacktail/whitetail, and so a Blacktail would not have "Mule Deer" genetics.

That was how the species was made. Now they are their own species and when they inner breed the offspring is half mule deer so it has mule deer genetics. Now if that deer mates with a blacktail it will look exactly like a blacktail but still be a quarter muley. And so on.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

So They take a DNA test to see if it has Mule Deer genes?

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Washington - Western Blacktail Deer, Non-Typical (Rifle)   
  1. 193 3/8 Pierce Co. Erik Anderson 
 
Washington - Columbian Blacktail Deer, Non-Typical (Rifle)
  1. 200 5/8 Thurston Co. Bob Stewart/John Stewart
 
Only +/- 7 inches, how do they tell the difference ? 

[grundy53]

So They take a DNA test to see if it has Mule Deer genes?

No. That's why they made the cascade blacktail destination. If its in that boundry its considered to have muley genes because there is a chance of cross breeding. As far as western and columbian.... I have always understood I-5 to be the boundry.  But I've been wrong before and I'm sure there is someone who knows more then me.

[grundy53]

Washington - Western Blacktail Deer, Non-Typical (Rifle)   
  1. 193 3/8 Pierce Co. Erik Anderson 
 
Washington - Columbian Blacktail Deer, Non-Typical (Rifle)
  1. 200 5/8 Thurston Co. Bob Stewart/John Stewart
 
Only +/- 7 inches, how do they tell the difference ? 

I have no clue.... lol

[billythekidrock]

Washington - Western Blacktail Deer, Non-Typical (Rifle)   
  1. 193 3/8 Pierce Co. Erik Anderson 
 
Washington - Columbian Blacktail Deer, Non-Typical (Rifle)
  1. 200 5/8 Thurston Co. Bob Stewart/John Stewart
 
Only +/- 7 inches, how do they tell the difference ? 

The Western was probably taken East of I5 and the Columbian was taken West of I5.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

The Western was probably taken East of I5 and the Columbian was taken West of I5.

Then explain,,

Washington - Western Blacktail Deer, Typical (Rifle)   
 # 1. 176 7/8 Pacific Co. Don Sowell 1950   
 
 
 







Washington - Columbian Blacktail Deer, Typical (Rifle)
12. 165 2/8 Pacific Co. Roger Lanes

[billythekidrock]

I would guess that it has something to do with the B&C scoring system for Blacktails vs the multiple categories of BTs in the WA State book.