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Black Teeth???
« on: October 31, 2010, 10:26:38 AM »
Man my buck this year had the blackest teeth I have ever seen. What causes that does anyone know? This is after soaking and peroxide, they were all jet black before.

Also how do you age a buck by his teeth. How old does he look. Or can you really tell?

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 10:41:23 AM »
its hard after they are 2 years old. i would say 7 or 8 though we age our sheep the same way
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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 10:47:45 AM »
Looks like he just never went to a dentist.  Deer do not believe in brushing obviously.   :chuckle:
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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2010, 11:01:56 AM »
I can give you a reasonable idea.  Could refine it with top-down and profile shots of the lower jaw, better wear indicators than the uppers.  

Based on what I see here, this guy is around 1/2 way through the useful life of his teeth (if nothing else kills them first, deer and elk starve to death when their teeth wear out).  That useful life varies from 8-9 years in low elevation resident bucks in the sagebrush, to 13-14 years for mountain migratory bucks.  Based on where you killed him, the latter applies.

I think Rock is spot-on, though I'd be less surprised if he was 6.5 than if 8.5; I would estimate he is most likely 6.5, next 7.5, and less likely to be 5.5 or 8.5 - but more likely to be 8.5 than 5.5.  I'm highly confident in the no less than 5.5, no more than 8.5 range.

If you have the lower jaw, I would be pretty confident in estimating age +/- 1 year.  To get closer than that, you'd have to send the two center front incisors to Mattson's lab in MT; it's worth the $40 or so to some guys to have the most precise estimate possible.    
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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 11:06:57 AM »
I think I threw out the jaw already.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 11:14:42 AM »
He was a smoker, 2 packs plus a day.  Probably had advanced stages emphysema which would have made it impossible for him to walk quickly let alone run.  Probably the only reason you got a shot at him.   :chuckle:  Which would explain a lot after seeing your shooting skills on the Wii last night.   :chuckle:
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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 11:23:31 AM »
He smoked to much :dunno:

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 06:11:04 PM »
My wife is a hygienist and said the deer was a low life, trailer trash livin' dipstick...
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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 06:34:10 PM »
you guys crack me up. :chuckle:

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2010, 07:08:42 PM »
He was a redneck with buck teeth, was he wearing overalls with a straw hat? :chuckle:

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 07:14:56 PM »
Damn meth head deer

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2010, 07:46:56 PM »
backy chewer with suspenders

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2010, 07:53:54 PM »
Way to go nchaput, now the WDFW will have to start a drug rehab for all the wildlife who are meth heads. May be the deer can get the wolves hooked on meth so we can lock them all up!
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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2010, 09:18:04 PM »
Halloween candy!!!!!!

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Re: Black Teeth???
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2010, 09:27:58 PM »
I can give you a reasonable idea.  Could refine it with top-down and profile shots of the lower jaw, better wear indicators than the uppers. 

Based on what I see here, this guy is around 1/2 way through the useful life of his teeth (if nothing else kills them first, deer and elk starve to death when their teeth wear out).  That useful life varies from 8-9 years in low elevation resident bucks in the sagebrush, to 13-14 years for mountain migratory bucks.  Based on where you killed him, the latter applies.

I think Rock is spot-on, though I'd be less surprised if he was 6.5 than if 8.5; I would estimate he is most likely 6.5, next 7.5, and less likely to be 5.5 or 8.5 - but more likely to be 8.5 than 5.5.  I'm highly confident in the no less than 5.5, no more than 8.5 range.

If you have the lower jaw, I would be pretty confident in estimating age +/- 1 year.  To get closer than that, you'd have to send the two center front incisors to Mattson's lab in MT; it's worth the $40 or so to some guys to have the most precise estimate possible.   
Interesting, I would think that the higher elevation bucks would have a shorter lifespan than deer in the foothills. Why is that? More grass rather than tough sagebrush? never even thought about it.

 


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