ATTENTION PEACHES RIDGE VIOLATORS

[bushmaster]

I know a person who has bought deer archery tag and shoots them with a rifle! Three years in a row this puke brags about BIG deer he gets and where he gets them at. This will be his last year poaching, because next year when he goes out to poach on the archery opener I will be in area to call it in. I know where and when this goes on at, and it stops this year!! By the way, he has taught this practice to a friend of his who is now his poaching partner! I tried this year but couldn't get the law there fast enough. Next year I will have a cop friend with me!

[woodswalker]

Hmmm...kind of like the folks who had a spotter sitting on Quartz watching for orange an then riding motorcycles down the singletrack trails from the peak of Quartz....I had that 2 years ago...partner and i were very frustrated...finally confronted the motorcycle riders and got the chorus of "we can ride here too".  When we dropped out of sight of Quartz off to the NW on the north faces we finally got some quiet...but the ELK we were after were down in the ravine visible from Quartz. 

Only had two days to hunt and both were tainted by motorcycles riding the trails and chasing the elk away from wherever we were. 

[FullDraw]

I was in that area for rifle deer helping some buddies.  A quad and a dirt bike came in the lower gate off of the 4510 rd.  They shot a nice buck and loaded it onto their quad.  We called Plum Creek and the Sheriffs department.  We did not get a plate #.  There is always dirt bikes on the road behind those gates and it doesn't seem like the game wardens care.

[gasman]

There is a big difference between a poacher and a guy using a motor vehicle behind a gate. Especially in the eyes of the law.


If you don't wan to see or hear motor vehicle, i suggest you hunt in roadless areas. You are going to find with the new travel management plan, they there my be gated roads open for OHV use weather you like it or not.

Hunters are not the only ones in the woods so get over it, there are many user groups out there, and i am sure that there are hikers that want to stop you from hunting on or around hiking trails.

If someone is breaking the law, take down the information and turn it in, period. Confrontation with a law breaker that does not occur against your person, is stupid. You can be looked as the aggressor and could be the one in jail or on the slab at the morgue.

Think with you head, not you feelings.


 
Go ahead and flame on. I am nutreal on this, and support both hunting and OHV use and i am not afraid to say it, and I do believe there should be more areas to ride OHV's in this state for recreation and hunting 

[woodswalker]

Gasman, what my partner and I encountered was scathingly close to hunter harrassment...or game harrassment...or BOTH.

I KNOW that there are other user groups out there. 

WATCHING for game and scaring it back down is harrassment.  Watching for hunters and running through near them is harrassment...and posting a spotter to WATCH FOR GAME AND HUNTERS is interfering, which IS a crime.  Glass works both ways....so do Radios.  When we hove into the LOS from Quartz, I watched carefully, saw watcher aquire partner, raise radio and less than 5 minutes later, here come bikes....when have been gone for HOURS (while we were out of sight), no bikes.

Yeah its all circumstancial..but it stinks to high heavens.  Especially the watcher departing when WDFW came up Quartz in response to my call after i got LOS with the repeater on Peoh Point. and re-appearing after the WDFW left.

[gasman]

That would piss me off too, but my coments are more dirrected towards that feel bikes should not be used (any time, by anyone) durring hunting season and they know who they are.

This is not a new discussion and many times i have seen guys post that OHV's should not be used durring hunting season. hell, i use those trails durringhuntingseason, it makes for easyier acces to some areas, in cluding teh area refered to in the first post.


So, I wounder what people would say if someone road in to an area, parked and hunted from there. There are many areas that have motorctcle trails that lead back to remote areas, and if someone rode a bike in, camped or just hunted for the day by foot.

What would other say to that 

[woodswalker]

like this....Note the WDFW "No Unauthorized Vehicles Beyond This Sign" notice in RED above the rider on the red quad.
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[Wenatcheejay]

To the picture, I'd be pissed as well.

[dscubame]

 

[woodswalker]

Yeah those yahoos spooked off the turkeys we were working...rode RIGHT THROUGH THEM!!!!  In sight of us no less....didnt see another bird all day.

[BAR C3]

About 8 years ago I was hunting out of state in Idaho and had a rutting bull screaming in with a rifle. Hiked in about four miles and parked at the gate. All of a sudden the bull shut up and disappeared. About the same time, I hear two 4 wheelers coming up. My hunting partner and I let them know how pist we were. The worse part was the came up the road knowing we were up there walking in. I will throw down with someone over it.

You can legally take quads behind most of the gates in Idaho.... so your going to throw down with someone for doing something perfectly legal?

Not this road! Big sign saying so. I have a quad, don't you think I would use it if I could? Found where they snuck in on the way out.

As far as this situation, it's the blame game! Forest Service blames Plum Creek and Plum Creek blames Forest Service. Kind of surprises me because I worked in the woods and grew up in a logging communtiy and I know that the Forest Service is FULL of granola eating tree huggers. Neither could care less. So we may as well all start taking four wheelers around the gates up there!
I know that the good Christian guys live on Whidbey Island that have the keys to the gates that Plum Creek swears nobody have copies of. I guess I must be having visions of vehicles driving around.
Some crooked crap!

[grundy53]

About 8 years ago I was hunting out of state in Idaho and had a rutting bull screaming in with a rifle. Hiked in about four miles and parked at the gate. All of a sudden the bull shut up and disappeared. About the same time, I hear two 4 wheelers coming up. My hunting partner and I let them know how pist we were. The worse part was the came up the road knowing we were up there walking in. I will throw down with someone over it.

You can legally take quads behind most of the gates in Idaho.... so your going to throw down with someone for doing something perfectly legal?

Not this road! Big sign saying so. I have a quad, don't you think I would use it if I could? Found where they snuck in on the way out.

As far as this situation, it's the blame game! Forest Service blames Plum Creek and Plum Creek blames Forest Service. Kind of surprises me because I worked in the woods and grew up in a logging communtiy and I know that the Forest Service is FULL of granola eating tree huggers. Neither could care less. So we may as well all start taking four wheelers around the gates up there!
I know that the good Christian guys live on Whidbey Island that have the keys to the gates that Plum Creek swears nobody have copies of. I guess I must be having visions of vehicles driving around.
Some crooked crap!

In that case I agree with you. Just wanted to double check. I know when I first went over there I was very surprised, totally opposite of Washington.

[gasman]

Now that i think about it, those gates are locke and no where does it say NO Vehicles Allowed.

The sign reads (as I remember) "Gate may be locked at any time".

I know where they get in at also, it dont take a rocket scientist to follow the tire tracks. The FS only put up a small plastic sign that says "No Vehicles", where the guys cross the creek. They made no attempt to block it, just a small sign.


Plum Creek abandoned that are years ago after they logged teh crap out of it. I believe they logged all tah tis possible on that of Peaches Ridge. I know they took every thing off teh top from teh 1914 eastward. Just a bunch of repods growing up.

Now when they were logging area, they kept a close eye on it and teh gates, but those roads beyond the gates have not been used in years. Legally that is.

[BAR C3]

Now that i think about it, those gates are locke and no where does it say NO Vehicles Allowed.

The sign reads (as I remember) "Gate may be locked at any time".

I know where they get in at also, it dont take a rocket scientist to follow the tire tracks. The FS only put up a small plastic sign that says "No Vehicles", where the guys cross the creek. They made no attempt to block it, just a small sign.


Plum Creek abandoned that are years ago after they logged teh crap out of it. I believe they logged all tah tis possible on that of Peaches Ridge. I know they took every thing off teh top from teh 1914 eastward. Just a bunch of repods growing up.


Now when they were logging area, they kept a close eye on it and teh gates, but those roads beyond the gates have not been used in years. Legally that is.

It says authorized vehicles only. Gate can be shut (locked) at anytime.
As far as logging the crap out of it up there. Your right, but guess what theose elk have been all over those clearcuts. That is why your seeing a decrease in "seeing" elk in that unit. I have hunted it for some time and the units are all grown up. I logged and don't believe in raping the land, but logging is where these animals get feed.
I grew up hunting on the Olympic Peninsula and the hunting has went to crap because of the lack of logging. I also grew up hunting behind gates on bicycles and never violated that! And Surprise Surprise I had keys to the gates due to logging. Got pictures to prove that I bicycled my 5x5 Blacktail out five miles and had keys to the gate  Bottomline it is unethical and/or hunters code as far as I'm concerned.
And before anyone says how did the game eat before clearcuts? It's called Wildfires that were not put out!

[gasman]

Most areas in this state need some major cearcutting. Only about 1% of teh NF is logged any more due to the greenies filing alaw suit every time they try to do any logging   


The Wenatchee NF is no where near as bad as the Gifford Pinchot or Mt Baker/ Snoqualmie NF.

Every year I wait for a wild fire here on the west side to devour a butt load of NF forest land, and then maybe people will open there eyes, especially if it happens neer Seattle.