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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2010, 09:19:14 AM »
geez guys, the regs are pretty clear. i wouldnt have shot it yesterday either but now that i know and understand the rules, i would shoot it tomorrow. props to the hunter for knowing the rules! im assuming he had time to identify exactly what he was shooting... or he got lucky... either way hes got a legal trophy spike.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2010, 11:46:47 AM »
I know what the regs say. But with my luck I would run into that one game officer that says it has a fork 4 inches above the skull and I would be screwed... just my luck.
Then I would go to court and have to prove my innocence. To me it is easier for ME to let it walk.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2010, 11:47:23 AM »
Think I would have had to let it walk. Never know what our friends at wdfw interpret as the main beam...
I didn't think of that is the point on the front fork more than four inches above the scull.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2010, 11:59:24 AM »
Nice legal spike. I would be scared to shoot it. If you run into a grumpy gamie they might give you a hard time.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2010, 12:36:41 PM »
Think I would have had to let it walk. Never know what our friends at wdfw interpret as the main beam...
I didn't think of that is the point on the front fork more than four inches above the scull.

That point doesn't count because it is not attached to the main beam. 

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2010, 12:45:14 PM »
I understand that it doesn't count but like I said with my luck someone would disagree then I would have to prove my interpretation of the rule to be innocent.
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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2010, 01:06:43 PM »
Shot one out of the Hanford herd about 15+yrs ago that was somewhat similar.  It was actually goofier looking though. On the left side the main beam twisted around almost 360degrees and didn't branch but it had double eye guards.  On the right side was a normal smallish 6pt.  Had both sides been the same it maybe would have been around 275ish bull.  

Any of the elk I've shot over the years I have saved all their horns except that goofy 3x6.  I'll chalk it up to being young and foolish for not saving it or at the least taking pictures of it.  :(

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2010, 01:17:03 PM »
WDFW Hates ME!!! I was responding to D-Rock425.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2010, 01:20:20 PM »
This thread is a great read and an awesome bull in a spike unit.  It goes hand in hand with a lot of other past threads where many are often stating "If you have done nothing wrong, there is no need to fear the gamies."  I think there are a lot of ambiguous laws as well as a few gray areas out there when it comes to F & G violations.  I would be in the same boat as many on here and probably would have let him go for fear that I might be doing something wrong or leave myself open to one Game Warden's interpretation of the law.   If I did shoot it and I'm sure many on here feel the same way, I would have been a nervous wreck hoping everything would check out O.K.   My point is that I feel that a lot of us law abiding sportsmen fear Gamies in general and would just assume stay clear of them for fear of unintentional wrongdoing.  Shouldn't have to be that way, but I think it is.  I must give props to the hunter who knew the regs to a certainty, and had the sack to shoot a nice bull.  
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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2010, 01:49:19 PM »
"That point doesn't count because it is not attached to the main beam. " quoted from an earlier reply.

Does it say in the regs that a point originating from 4 inches above the ear needs to be on the main beam, to count as a point?

It's a cool bull and I'm glad that this hunter got an awesome trophy, but I'd sure be worried about the interpretation made by the field officer.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2010, 04:41:14 PM »
This thread is a great read and an awesome bull in a spike unit.  It goes hand in hand with a lot of other past threads where many are often stating "If you have done nothing wrong, there is no need to fear the gamies."  I think there are a lot of ambiguous laws as well as a few gray areas out there when it comes to F & G violations.  I would be in the same boat as many on here and probably would have let him go for fear that I might be doing something wrong or leave myself open to one Game Warden's interpretation of the law.   If I did shoot it and I'm sure many on here feel the same way, I would have been a nervous wreck hoping everything would check out O.K.   My point is that I feel that a lot of us law abiding sportsmen fear Gamies in general and would just assume stay clear of them for fear of unintentional wrongdoing.  Shouldn't have to be that way, but I think it is.  I must give props to the hunter who knew the regs to a certainty, and had the sack to shoot a nice bull.   :yeah:

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2010, 05:11:17 PM »
I try to know the regs well enough that I never have to guess in the field.   

But on this one, I'm afraid I'd have let the bull walk.  Then I'd have gotten back to camp and checked the regs and kicked myself in the butt until my leg wouldn't work any longer.   Then I would've hobbled back to wherever I saw and it and tried desperately to find it again.

What a cooooooooooooooool trophy out of a spike unit.

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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2010, 05:26:07 PM »
Scotty like i said earlier... Who determines what is the main beam???

It has 2 beams? Wich is the main one? I would say the longer one. But there really is nothing in the regs that says the longer one is the main? It would now be up for interpretation.

Like i said before nice bull and good on ya for filling your tag. But i would have let it walk because someone up there hates me....
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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2010, 06:15:28 PM »
I was scratching my head on this one but...

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Elk taken in these units must have at least one antler with no branches....

I see it that this bull has 3 antlers.  One of which has no branches.....



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Re: unique 1x6
« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2010, 11:54:21 AM »
Well I had an interesting call this morning from a WDFW enforcement officer that I know.  I stand corrected.  That bull in fact is NOT LEGAL in a spike area.  The reason is the kicker coming off the tine.  That kicker originates 4" above the burr.

That bull was checked by a WDFW officer as stated.  The officer was in a hurry and had several other elk to check before moving on to a new location.  He realized his mistake a few days later.  Apparently there will be no tickes issued over this.


 


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