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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2012, 08:48:37 PM »
Sorry...

So 4th amendment is what I was saying.  They can call the cops all they want but they arent coming on my property without a warrant.

And if the poacher trespasses with a firearm, I thought it was considered a felony.  maybe im wrong but I thought Washington had passed that law like 10 years ago.   

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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2012, 09:12:08 PM »
no dont think so tresspassing weather with a firearm or not is only a misdameanor gross misdameanor.
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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2012, 09:16:04 PM »
I have talked about this subject for many years around the campfire up hunting. Some of those hunters were police, a couple of CPA's, 1 IRS agent and 4hvac techs like myself!

If you shoot animal on private property and that animal is in season, and you have a tag and licence, the only law broken was the trespassing! And every person mentioned above has said it should also be "considered by LAW" a form of poaching when an animal is downed on "private" land. The actor,first offence for the tresspass will get little to no punishment, and still keeps the animal!

I know a guy who shot a deer in a farmers field off of 20 by twisp. The cops came wrote him a must appear tresspass charge, and then HELPED him load the deer into his truck.

Why is this not considered a form of poaching?
Why does "i didn't see the no trespass sign" get you off of the trespass charge?


Your thoughts!

The above was all prior to the new "hunting while trespassing" law. Under the new law, hunting while trespassing renders nearly everything used in the commission of the crime to forfeiture, in addition to fines and suspension of hunting rights. This law was created to address the above issue.

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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2012, 09:37:06 PM »
Just a no trespassing ticket??????  Heck I'm gonna sneak in to Northwest Trek and kill a ripper, especially if they'll help me load it up!!!!!!   ;)

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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2012, 10:46:03 PM »
i think it should be poaching to shoot an animal on private property that you dont have permission to hunt. here is why. consider i am property owner who has invested thousands of dollars in food plots to grow good harvest-able deer. then some one comes on my property and shoots one. now im out part of my property investment. now change the item. lets say its not a deer but a prize winning fair pumpkin that im growing and some one comes on my property and harvests my pumpkin. now they are both natural things to this earth blah blah. what that person did was steal from the property owner. as the law states possession is 9/10 of the law. if there is a deer on my land and some one kills and takes it from my land without my permission he has stolen it, and should be treated as they illegally harvested an animal.
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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2012, 10:52:07 PM »
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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2012, 11:14:54 PM »
i think it should be poaching to shoot an animal on private property that you dont have permission to hunt. here is why. consider i am property owner who has invested thousands of dollars in food plots to grow good harvest-able deer. then some one comes on my property and shoots one. now im out part of my property investment. now change the item. lets say its not a deer but a prize winning fair pumpkin that im growing and some one comes on my property and harvests my pumpkin. now they are both natural things to this earth blah blah. what that person did was steal from the property owner. as the law states possession is 9/10 of the law. if there is a deer on my land and some one kills and takes it from my land without my permission he has stolen it, and should be treated as they illegally harvested an animal.

Not quite.... the pumpkin you plant from seed and retain 100% ownership.  No wildlife (deer) can be owned in this state by you.  You have the right to post it out but it isn't "your" deer.   It is "our" deer as a member of the public.

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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2012, 11:51:34 PM »
 :) thanks whitepirate exactly what I was thinking on. Didn't count all who thought his was a good idea but as my statement says 3,000 tyrants do live one mile away.
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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #68 on: October 09, 2012, 05:55:02 AM »
Can you shoot a deer across a fence, then throw a lasoo across to retrieve it? :dunno:
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Re: PRIVATE PROPERTY/ BUCKLEY ELK!
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2012, 07:04:59 AM »
I've had that exact problem with waterfowl... When a dead goose locks up and goes into the neighbors property.

Is it trespassing if only my pup goes into their property?

Can we just start sending our pups in to get the elk out?
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