Long Range Caliber?

[MDGrand]

not guaranteed to do anything.. but for some rifles especially RUMs it can have a good impact on barrel life.. it was cheap and I have friends that have done it on their Lapuas and other rifles and it does make a difference... it did make an impact on my groups.

[Curly]

210 Berger VLD, 3.54 OAL, 87.9 grains RL 25 = 2950 ft/per sec, 0.063 BC  1/2 MOA  For Elk and Deer       
200 Barnes Tipped TSX, 3.56 OAL, 87.9 grains RL 25 = 3050 ft/per sec, 0.058 BC 1/2 MOA For Bear

Dude, those are some really low BC's..........

[carpsniperg2]

  thats what i was thinking r we talking about a pellet gun

[high country]

500 yds does not require anything other then a MOA rifle and a decent scope......and real life practice.

I have to laugh at guys that put a minimum caliber to kill an elk at a given range.....c'mon. lots of elk have been zonked at big time ranges with 308's, 7-08's......260's and 25's.

[Bofire]

 :)I'd use my ole 300 win mag I been using forever. It has done what you describe many times. This oughta get you guys going   but I always say a 300 wm shoots a 180 grain pill like a 7mm rem mag shots a 150 grain trajectory wise, it just hits harder and penetrates better. I shot elk with both there is no question in my mind which one kills better.
Carl

[GlennGTR]

I prefer the 7-08 Remington with a 24 inch barrel and Nikon scope, will upgrade the scope eventualy. Find a good sub moa load and practice.

[jdb]

7mm Ultra Mag....  Just a 7mm Rem Mag on steriods!!!

for 300-500 yards its perfect.  No special scope needed - just a crosshair.  Sight it in 3 inches high at 100.  Dead on at 350.  Only 12-14 inches low at 500 yards.  On an elk at 500, just hold on its back.  There is something to be said for always holding "hair".  This may be one of the flattest shooting big game cartridges out there.  But I'll leave that to the ballistic guys.  Anyone?

just curios where you got that information?

[Curly]

He's probably 100 yards off.  At 400 yards I can see it being 15" low, but at 500 it should be twice that........about like most cartridges.

[TheHunt]

Hehehehe... I love the comments on the 7 mm mag.  He did not say what bullet he was using or his load.  I love the comments...   

[ing]

What about a 338-378 Weatherby?

[jdb]

Hehehehe... I love the comments on the 7 mm mag.  He did not say what bullet he was using or his load.  I love the comments...   

[ribka]

500 yds does not require anything other then a MOA rifle and a decent scope......and real life practice.

I have to laugh at guys that put a minimum caliber to kill an elk at a given range.....c'mon. lots of elk have been zonked at big time ranges with 308's, 7-08's......260's and 25's.

True that. As an experiment I thought that i would just my 30-06 this year. Tikka T3 stainless lite. Shoots really well with a lot ammo but really likes Hornandy 180 gr.  Cloverleafs at 100 yds from a bench. It did not kick like my 300 mag and could shoot a box of ammo without getting beat up or developing a flinch.  

I put on a decent scope and practiced and practiced with shooting sticks, off hand, prone on back pack  etc and felt comfortable out to 500 on a deer sized target with the sticks or supported on my pack. Under hunting conditions limit myself to 400 yds or less. Went to Montana this year and one shot in the neck on a whitetail at a little less than 400 yds.

Looking at a 270wsm or 257 weatherby for next year.  

Of course there are a dozen or so flatter shooting, better BC rifles out there. Shoot one you can practice a lot with, feel comfortable carrying all day and have the confidence in shooting

[HUNT]

7mm Ultra Mag....  Just a 7mm Rem Mag on steriods!!!

for 300-500 yards its perfect.  No special scope needed - just a crosshair.  Sight it in 3 inches high at 100.  Dead on at 350.  Only 12-14 inches low at 500 yards.  On an elk at 500, just hold on its back.  There is something to be said for always holding "hair".  This may be one of the flattest shooting big game cartridges out there.  But I'll leave that to the ballistic guys.  Anyone?

just curios where you got that information?

I have that information from shooting my rifle.  I shoot barnes ttsx 150 gr bullets @ approx 3600 fps.  sub moa groups. 

[HUNT]

He's probably 100 yards off.  At 400 yards I can see it being 15" low, but at 500 it should be twice that........about like most cartridges.

Not with the 7mm Ultra Mag  -- Its a flat shooter.

[Curly]

Wow, I guess it's flat.  I didn't know you could get 3600 fps out them.  That's cool.  My reloading book is too old to have the RUM in it.