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Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« on: November 14, 2010, 07:08:25 PM »
 
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These two hybrid-wolves which I visited locally are magnificent animals, 140-plus pounds of muscle who recognize their owner as the Alpha leader.
 
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Gray wolves in Washington state : pros and cons

By Ron Malast
Observer columnist

Let me preface this article by saying that for the past 45 years I have held nothing but admiration for the wolf. Their intelligence, cunning, family orientation and hunting skills and techniques are, in my opinion, unequaled in animal society. I have several treasured pictures of wolves and have observed them several times in a wolf compound (outside of Buckley) and in the Alaskan wilderness. Nature shows, conservationists and state and federal wildlife departments often paint a picture of a noble beast, which it is - but there is also a dark side to the story of the wolf.

With the announcement by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, that it is seeking nominations for a citizen-working group, which will guide the department in developing a conservation and management plan for gray wolves in Washington, "red flags" were the order of the day.

Although gray wolves were eradicated in Washington by the 1930s, sightings have increased since federal recovery efforts were initiated in Idaho and Montana in the mid-1990s. The success of those efforts has prompted the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to propose removing gray wolf populations in three states and parts of four other states - including Washington - from the federal list of endangered species.

If the gray wolves are de-listed by the federal government, the main difference will be that Washington and other Western states will have the primary responsibility for managing their wolf populations.

A draft plan is scheduled for completion by Dec. 30, 2007, with the final plan by June 30, 2008.

What does that really mean and what impact will it have for Washington residents, hunters, farmers and stock growers?

The states of Washington and Oregon have already experienced the effects of "do-good" voters who have shielded bears and cougars from being hunted with dogs. The populations of these two predators have procreated in the northwest, to the point they have severely affected deer and elk populations, not to mention calves, dogs and cats. There are numerous instances of cougar attacks on people. But the record shows that no one has ever been killed or eaten by a wolf in North America.

Gray wolves actually come in a variety of colors; they can have white, red, black or gray fur. Male wolves weigh on the average of 90 pounds but can range up to 130 pounds and females generally weigh less. They can run 35 miles per hour and jump about 12 feet. They live in packs ranging from eight to 35 members and like maned and red wolves, mate for life. Their life span is eight to 12 years. The wolf's jaw can exert 1,500 pounds of pressure per square inch, twice that of a German shepherd; wolves can crush large bones in just a few bites.

There were approximately 3,500 wolves in the lower 48 states and about 10,000 in Alaska. That was the estimate three years ago. In Yellowstone Park, 33 Canadian gray wolves were reintroduced in 1995 and 1996 amid bitter controversy. Ranchers and landowners living outside the park remain on edge. Today more than 300 wolves thrive in the park.

Gray wolves communicate to each other through howling, body language and scent. Howling is used to assemble the pack, talk to other packs, assert territorial claims, or, as a source of pleasure. Experts claim that on a calm night, howls can be heard from as far as 120 miles away. Wolves use their faces and tails to indicate their emotions or status in the pack.

Marcia Armstrong, executive director of Siskiyou County Farm Bureau and Siskiyou Cattlemen's Association says, "Our last remaining industry here is agriculture and cattle and it is already in trouble. Many people here suggest that wolves and maybe grizzly bears should be introduced onto the streets of San Francisco and Sacramento - it seems that the problems of endangered species are always in rural areas and people with all the ideas live 400 miles away from the rural areas. They do not have to contend with the problem."

For some ranchers in economically depressed areas, however, the wolf is fast establishing itself as the icon of their twin tormentors; the faceless federal government and the effete, tree-hugging environmentalists.

I found this one story, "Shocking Wolf Story out of Idaho" written by Scott Richards, a Grangeville, Idaho resident for the past 34 years; it is documented with Idaho Fish and Game reports, pictures and witnesses. It is a seven-page story, but here is a synopsis of that letter:

Scott writes, "The reason I am telling this story is not to debate whether the Canadian gray wolf should or should not be here. I am not going to debate anyone about how many wolfs (sic) are really in the state of Idaho. I will say our elk, moose and deer populations are in serious trouble now! The reason I am telling this story is that I have a conscience, and what happened to my dogs and me on Wednesday May 25, 2006. It's been a few days now and the shock has turned from fear to disbelief, to anger and now the major concern for the safety of anyone who lives or visits our state and plans on going into the wilderness."

The morning started out as he took off with eight (seven experienced, one five month old pup) of his dogs that he was training for bear hunting. "I did not drive too far and the dogs sounded off letting me know that a bear had crossed the road."

About 20 minutes later they had treed a bear, he took a few pictures and went back to the truck to check on his other group of dogs that also had a bear treed. They parked about 200 yards from the second treed bear and heard the roaring barking of dogs then heard nothing. Then Scott and his companion Bryon could hear a bark about 50 yards away in one direction and another bark and a yelp, in another direction.

"As I was running towards the yelp I was stopped dead in my tracks by a big dark-colored wolf. My dog Blackey was being attacked. I stopped about 12-feet from the wolf and even though I was screaming and waving my arms, the wolf did not break from the attack. Every time Blackey tried to run, the wolf would sink its teeth into the dog's hindquarters. All the while I was screaming louder than I ever screamed in my life. As I swing at the wolf and missed, the wolf instantly lunged at me. I remember thinking I was going to die. I ran from tree to tree towards the truck to get a gun. I did not see what took place but what I heard was my dog giving his life to save mine.

"My friend Bryon came running up and said that he had been able to save two dogs (Snyper and Bullet) while fighting off three wolves." Now armed and with the tracking box in hand they started back towards the dogs. On each different tracking collar frequency there was only one beep every four seconds which means that all three dogs had not moved for at least five minutes. All dead!

 
 
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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 01:14:22 PM »
Most of us read Scott's story a few years ago.  Heartwrenching.

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 01:25:11 PM »
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Experts claim that on a calm night, howls can be heard from as far as 120 miles away.
 

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 01:54:23 PM »
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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 01:57:21 PM »
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there is no wolves in washington,  all the hoowls you hear are coming from canada

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
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there is no wolves in washington,  all the hoowls you hear are coming from canada

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 02:15:38 PM »
Ah.. but the Wolfe's song is carried by the winds of Indian ancestors for thousands of miles!  :chuckle: :bash:

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 02:22:50 PM »
ya thought that articale was a little interesting.if i did see one this would happen :mgun: :ass:

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 03:27:51 PM »
if i ever saw one goin after my hound it'd be dead

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2010, 05:36:44 AM »
Trust me. My stomach still boiling.    i am worried again if i will ever loose our hounds this coming winter.


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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2010, 09:33:11 AM »
Last winter and spring I recorded watching the 4 wolves 15 times, three of those were watching them steal a cougars kill, they are very skillful at it. One other time I thought it was a cougar kill but didn't see the cat.  I scoped the area often for the wolves, during that time I seen 5 defiantly different cats, so chances are good there will be wolves in the same area you find cats.

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2010, 06:02:20 PM »
All i got to say is :  :mgun:

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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2010, 07:55:04 PM »
Trust me. My stomach still boiling.    i am worried again if i will ever loose our hounds this coming winter.


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Re: Here is what a pack of wolves will do....
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2010, 08:10:49 PM »
 :mgun: You have every right to protect your self and your animals in that type of situation. Shoot each and every one of the damn things if you have to
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