Well I'll bite with another spin. I would say 7.5" bases, if correct, are pretty impressive for a Shiras. Regarding the point lengths being terrible on paper; let's say this bull with his incredible time lengths got an extra ten inches of spread credit because of those extra long tines. That is the equivalent of adding 5 inches per side on his palm widths when it comes to score. It's all about inches of bone. Long tine length often means smaller palm width but often adds to your one and only spread credit. Plus he looks cool as hell. My 2 cents. Great bull any way you shake him.