Gregoire plan: merge agencies

[Wacenturion]

Just look at all the states that are in deep doo doo.......New York, California, Illinois, and to a lesser degree others like Washington..............all very Democrap for years.  Last Republican Governor we had was Spellman...a long time ago. 

[Dave Workman]

Just look at all the states that are in deep doo doo.......New York, California, Illinois, and to a lesser degree others like Washington..............all very Democrap for years.  Last Republican Governor we had was Spellman...a long time ago. 

Hey WA...

read my screed here:

http://www.examiner.com/node/27445196

Or try this:

http://tinyurl.com/28qndp6

You, of all people, ought to "relate"....

[haus]

We can't blame the legislature or the governor for ignoring us when we don't even stand up for ourselves. Throwing our money in the pot isn't enough, yes it should be, but the reality is its not.

[Special T]

Once upon a time this sate had democrats that many people could vote for today... Dixie lee ray, Scoop jackson to name 2 democrats that were worth a  ... Most democrats today have 0 commonsence managing this state... Too bad the Republicans that have the common sence are neurterd and are too weak to asert them selves.    In this state republicans and democrates are compleate opposits... Dems are very assertive and no idea what they are/should be doing... The Repubs have no balls to push for what we should be doing.... Just look at Dino Rossi, could have been good for this state. Unfortunatly he is just a big puss adn wan't willing to make political waves to win!  I hate politics in this state!

[Elkaholic daWg]

Once upon a time this sate had democrats that many people could vote for today... Dixie lee ray, Scoop jackson to name 2 democrats that were worth a  ... Most democrats today have 0 commonsence managing this state... Too bad the Republicans that have the common sence are neurterd and are too weak to asert them selves.    In this state republicans and democrates are compleate opposits... Dems are very assertive and no idea what they are/should be doing... The Repubs have no balls to push for what we should be doing.... Just look at Dino Rossi, could have been good for this state. Unfortunatly he is just a big puss adn wan't willing to make political waves to win!   I hate politics in this state!

AMEN brother!!! Too Bad Baghdad Jim ruined it for Dixie in the primary in 1980, and Senator Jackson died the night after the Soviets brought down KAL-007. When democrats had brains!

[Dave Workman]

We can't blame the legislature or the governor for ignoring us when we don't even stand up for ourselves. Throwing our money in the pot isn't enough, yes it should be, but the reality is its not.

Well, that's only part of the problem

There are too many (and one is too many) hunters who actually think that drawing for deer tags, and reducing hunting opportunity, and playing along with the anti-hunters is good strategy and the only way to cope with "learning to get by with less opportunity."
 

These people are so  their eyes are brown, and they are self-delusional to boot.

We have a state with abundant habitat, tons of public land, three species of deer, two strains of elk, and yet we kill less than 25% of the deer they take in Ohio, and that state is about 20,000 square miles smaller, it has a fraction of the public land, and they don't get to hunt with rifles, only shotguns and ML, archery, but by comparison, we suck.

When these people go along with whatever table scraps the WDFW wants to toss out there, we present a fractured community at war with itself. WDFW loves Resource Allocation because it keeps hunting constituencies fighting each other, rather than uniting to pressure the state to provide the genuine opportunities we all pay for.

[shoot-em-dead]

We can't blame the legislature or the governor for ignoring us when we don't even stand up for ourselves. Throwing our money in the pot isn't enough, yes it should be, but the reality is its not.

Well, that's only part of the problem

There are too many (and one is too many) hunters who actually think that drawing for deer tags, and reducing hunting opportunity, and playing along with the anti-hunters is good strategy and the only way to cope with "learning to get by with less opportunity."
 

These people are so   their eyes are brown, and they are self-delusional to boot.

We have a state with abundant habitat, tons of public land, three species of deer, two strains of elk, and yet we kill less than 25% of the deer they take in Ohio, and that state is about 20,000 square miles smaller, it has a fraction of the public land, and they don't get to hunt with rifles, only shotguns and ML, archery, but by comparison, we suck.

When these people go along with whatever table scraps the WDFW wants to toss out there, we present a fractured community at war with itself. WDFW loves Resource Allocation because it keeps hunting constituencies fighting each other, rather than uniting to pressure the state to provide the genuine opportunities we all pay for.

Side note- 4 species of deer here

[Special T]

If your referring to the pacific white tail i would say your right but there is a whole area that is closed because of them... 

[bobcat]

Columbian Whitetail?     Not sure if it's actually considered a different species than the other whitetails, or just a sub-species. But either way they can't be hunted so I wouldn't count them anyway.

[Special T]

yes i meant Columbia WT

[Dave Workman]

yes i meant Columbia WT

Yep, I knew about the Columbia Whitetail, and I also know they cannot be hunted so I didn't count them.

Ohio, BTW, has only whitetails.  And still, last year they killed (are you sitting down??) more than 200,000 deer during their lengthy season.

[Bob33]

Columbian Whitetail?     Not sure if it's actually considered a different species than the other whitetails, or just a sub-species. But either way they can't be hunted so I wouldn't count them anyway.

According to this, they are one of three sub-species of whitetail deer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_White-tailed_Deer

[Dave Workman]

Columbian Whitetail?     Not sure if it's actually considered a different species than the other whitetails, or just a sub-species. But either way they can't be hunted so I wouldn't count them anyway.

According to this, they are one of three sub-species of whitetail deer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_White-tailed_Deer

And THIS is how we allow ourselves to get side-tracked off of an important discussion 

[bobcat]

I'm not sure how important the discussion was anyway. I mean it's not like anybody's opinion here is going to affect whether they do or do not merge the portions of the agencies they are talking about merging. And really, the way I'm looking at it is if it's going to actually save a lot of money, then go for it. Hopefully with the merging they can cut some of the upper managment positions which is where they really need to cut anyway.

[Wacenturion]

I'm not sure how important the discussion was anyway. I mean it's not like anybody's opinion here is going to affect whether they do or do not merge the portions of the agencies they are talking about merging. And really, the way I'm looking at it is if it's going to actually save a lot of money, then go for it. Hopefully with the merging they can cut some of the upper managment positions which is where they really need to cut anyway.

Cut upper management positions....you have got to be kidding ...right?   If anything there will probably be added positions near or at the top.  Not going to save any money either......but hey, maybe we could have permit drawings for campsites in the future.....that would make for some additional revenues.

And Dave............I can surely relate.