Letter to the Editor: One less bull in the Tieton Dr. herd...

[Weatherbyfan]

The natives in the green pick- up !!!!!!!!! Were charge with something on the scanner the game and fish department had tribal law enforcement and tribal fish and game show up at the seen to write infractions ,
i didnt hear what the charges were but they did get writen up for something. 

[boneaddict]

Good news!   Maybe public endangerment since they did shoot from a feeding station with kids and old ladies running around.

[bobcat]

Kinda funny- the way those guys in the picture are dressed makes me think "gang member" more than it does "hunter."

[whiteeyes]

The same thing is going on up here in the Kittitas Valley but, the only difference is its the Master Hunters instead of the Tribes. The  elk are being chased from one sage brush to the next. Not trying to compare the two but just sayin the Indians aren't the only people still harvesting elk this time of year.   

[fishunt247]

With some research skills, I'm sure someone could find out what they were cited for...if you had the license plate number. I'm sure there is a way to look up who is the registered owner of a vehicle online. Once you found that out, you could search their record.

And I see nothing wrong with posting these pictures online. If I would have had the foresight to grab my camera, I would have done the same thing. In fact, I think buck should contact the newspaper and maybe some news stations (we all know there isn't much news in Yakima anyway) to see if they are interested in the story and pictures.

It is truly sad that they would be so proud of their actions; they are neither admirable or remotely okay.

I'm game to go to the WDFW meetings, whenever they are.

[boneaddict]

I hope he does as well.  Actually I'd bet some of the tribal folks on here would be interested as well.   I bet they don't particularly enjoy the fact some lazy folks are bringing bad press to their way of life.   

[Alan K]

Lastly, and probably the most disturbing to me...Most people are going to look at those pictures and use the following observations to base their anger: The two guys are Indian, they aren't wearing camo, they have multiple animals in the back, they have a tribal sticker in the window, they are overweight.  All these things, although irrelevant to the treaty hunting discussion on this forum, will invoke emotion out of people involved in the discussion.  This is no different than the tactic enviros use to push their agenda.

Sure looks like subsistence hunting to me. . .    Pictures like this show these guys are NOT starving (their weight), and are NOT too poor to purchase food from a store (nice pickup and sweet bling bling rims).  The pictures just scream thrill kill, kill for fun, or kill to stick it to the white man and his feeding stations. Not kill for subsistence, as the treaties were intended.



In order to get people to take action you need some sort of emotional drive, and pictures like this do a lot more for provoking action than someone coming on here and just saying "I saw an indian with two big bulls in the back of this truck leaving the feed station".

Take for example humane society commercials. . . You can tell people 10,000,000 animals are killed every year in shelters by euthanization until the cows come home, but I'd bet their commercials showing maybe 10 of the animals in their cages have more impact on the viewer than hearing the statistic alone. 

In my opinion we need to be out there videotaping and taking more pictures like this so we can expose these scumbags and their *censored* and hopefully someday get the general public to understand what's going on.  Only then will anything have a chance in hell at being changed.

 

[Coastal_native]

Colockum,

It's good to hear from you again, I knew someone would rip appart my post.

Actually the only thing that "strikes a deep chord" with me is that you've taken my opinions from my post and turned them into a me vs. you argument.  If you feel as strongly as you do about all that you've said, you are more than welcome to just go out and say it...I shouldn't be your motivation.  I should have stuck to the point that I didn't agree with posting the pictures and left all the other crap out.  The pictures read like a Native American treaty hunting political attack ad.  It's not entirely representative of treaty hunting, but it will be used to say "this is treaty hunting".  

You took my comment about the foodplot out of context.  I think at that point you were probably so mad that you just wanted to argue .  Buckmaster made a comment that any retard or idiot can shoot elk from a road at a feeding station(or something like that).  Well, anyone can climb up in a tree house and shoot a deer from a food plot too, the only prerequisite is that you can shoot a gun.  I was only comparing the two as being two hunting (or killing) styles that don't really appeal to me.  Actually I specifically said that I don't like the idea of killing animals from a feeding station when they are vulnerable.  In any case, I fully understand the differences of the two.  I was surprised you thought otherwise.

If those pictures are what everyone on here wants, then all I can do is wine.  It just seems like dirty politics to me, although I don't think that was Buckmaster's intent.  He feels strongly about the issue and was being proactive, which I guess I can't argue with...I can only stomp my feet and wine.  I wasn't trying to stand up for the Yak/feeding station situation.  I was only trying to protect the integrity of the treaty hunting discussion by not putting it on individuals.  These weren't pictures of Indians killing elk at a feeding station, they were pictures of Indians standing next to there truck with game in the back.  It was a very good picture, if you're trying to capture what the general public's stereo typical Indian Hunter looks like.  Again, I'm not sure how that helps.

It sounds like these guys were in the wrong anyway, which wasn't clear to me at first, so I apologize to buckmaster for jumping the gun and opening my mouth.  If they were doing something illegal, then they are poachers and they get what they deserve.

I'll give you the last word in the me vs. you argument, I promise....

[boneaddict]

Thing of it is Coastal, those photos are very represenative of what we are seeing here north of Yakima. 

[JimmyHoffa]

 These weren't pictures of Indians killing elk at a feeding station, they were pictures of Indians standing next to there truck with game in the back.  It was a very good picture, if you're trying to capture what the general public's stereo typical Indian Hunter looks like.

I don't think this is the image that the general public has for native hunters.  The majority of the general public believes what they have seen in movies and read in history books.  The general public that I've talked to think that Natives: use every piece of the animal, are at one with nature, treat wild animals like family, only kill for the amount of meat they need, etc.  That same general public thinks the white hunters are the ones that killed Bambi, only kill for horns, shoot all the buffalo for their tongues, killed all the wolves, etc.  If you tell somebody lies long enough, they will believe them.

[boneaddict]

This is what the average G Que public sees when they pull up to a feeding station to see the cute little elk.    What kind of emotional response do you think it promotes.

[boneaddict]

NOTE the drag marks in blood OUT OF the feeding station portion.   Also note the pecker in the snow.

[boneaddict]

[boneaddict]

or the head thrown by the side of the road on the way out.    This one was a weak or two older than the gutpile

[400out]

I was following this when it first started.. now I caome back to it and now I'm really pissed!
I wish I was a highly educated soul I would spend my free time trying like hell to do something about this (if there is anything to be done)
Very sad!