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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2010, 02:45:25 PM »
Funny thing about steel over lead is I'm guessing the steel will rust and kill a bird as fast as the lead will,when in his guts. :dunno:

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2010, 07:44:26 PM »
HUH?...........All guns have a "choke" it may only be skeet but it's still somewhat constricted as compared to bucked off with a hacksaw and the burr filed down.If your gun has fixed chokes and is I/C and Mod when you shoot steel through them it's going to pattern like MOD and FULL would with lead,if your shooter has fixed chokes it should be stamped on the barrells.If not  stamped you'll need to measure them with an inside micrometer and consult a chart,I don't think there is a trick for 20 like there is for a twelve gauge with a dime.

Sorry I meant to say it does not have a removable choke, this gun was used for trap shooting only but i find it works very well for upland game.  I just wouldn't want to ruin the barrel and dont have a clue whether or not steel would ruin it.

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2010, 05:23:32 PM »
Sorry I meant to say it does not have a removable choke, this gun was used for trap shooting only but i find it works very well for upland game.  I just wouldn't want to ruin the barrel and dont have a clue whether or not steel would ruin it.
If it's a trap gun it will have a tight full choke - DO NOT SHOT ANY STEEL THROUGH IT!!!!!
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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2010, 05:39:30 PM »
It's not a trap gun if it's a 20 gauge. Trap guns are only 12 gauge. It may have been used for skeet.

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 07:02:57 PM »
Not sure if it has been addressed yet, but if a gun is not marked for steel, I wouldn't use steel in it.  I have a few older shotguns that I had to put Briley chokes in so that I could use them with steel.

You shouldn't assume that it is OK if the choke is open (IC or CYL).  You might do damage to an older shotgun that has some collector value.

Some older guns (later model winchester 101s) were ok from the factory with steel, and are NOT marked so, but winchester says they can.  Browning specifically says that their superposed shotguns should not be used with steel. 

 

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 07:06:19 PM »
Not sure if it has been addressed yet, but if a gun is not marked for steel, I wouldn't use steel in it.  I have a few older shotguns that I had to put Briley chokes in so that I could use them with steel.

You shouldn't assume that it is OK if the choke is open (IC or CYL).  You might do damage to an older shotgun that has some collector value.

Some older guns (later model winchester 101s) were ok from the factory with steel, and are NOT marked so, but winchester says they can.  Browning specifically says that their superposed shotguns should not be used with steel. 

 
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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 07:25:06 PM »
My issue is the expense with my older doubles.  I can load, Nice, Bismuth or...  I won't shoot steel through them.    Now, I also expect that I will be able to add to the safe and save some $$$ in the future.

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2010, 08:47:47 PM »
My issue is the expense with my older doubles.  I can load, Nice, Bismuth or...  I won't shoot steel through them.    Now, I also expect that I will be able to add to the safe and save some $$$ in the future.

Where are you finding bismuth for reloading? 

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2010, 11:06:22 PM »
I'll look I had a contact.  I will look for his contact info and PM you if I can find it but it will be a while I am traveling for work the next couple weeks.

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Re: Non-toxic shot requirement Jan 1 2011
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2010, 10:28:53 PM »
Where are you finding bismuth for reloading? 

www.precisionreloading.com

They have bismuth, hevi-shot, and nice shot for reloading.

 


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