Shed Hunters

[PolarBear]

I don't care what they are chasing, whether it is deer, elk, my livestock or even my cats, if it is on my property and I can get to my rifle fast enough it is dead, period!  I have 0 sympathy for folks who cannot control their dogs.

[shedcrazy]

Some of you must like the court system, please do shoot and see what happens!!

[PolarBear]

Well said, Lokidog. Unfortunately it seems that these days greed is taking over for some.

Not only in shed hunting but the pursuit of all big game.

[BLUEBULLS]

I disagree.  I'm in the field all the time and I have seen deer being chased by dogs.  It sucks that the owners don't break their dogs to deer, but that's life...and lots of things suck in life that we have to deal with.  My rationale to the whole wildlife harassment by dogs argument has to do with my hunting dogs (bird dogs and hounds) that chase wildlife and harass them for a job.  What's to stop some d-bag from shooting my hounds off a tree with a lion or a coon in it?  I like my dogs, I try to keep them straight, but even with proper training and shock collars ect. dogs will sometimes trash on game.  If someone shot my dog (no matter what it was chasing (excluding livestock)) they would have a fight on their hands right then and there.   

My thoughts as well. I keep my dogs on leash ALL of the time when shed hunting. If one of them broke the leash, or escaped for some other strange reason, chased a deer and got shot… the shooter would have problems. I like my dogs, they’re pretty much family.

Any of you ever run after deer when you were a kid? I sure did. I know it’s a lot different but think about it.

I’m all for keeping pets under control but a guy has to use his head too.

[grundy53]

but shooting them is not the right thing to do. 

Sorry to hear about your bullsh*t loss, but in most cases with those of us that are in the field all the time, killing them IS the right thing to do.

[MtnMuley]

I'm not going to shoot a shed dog.  I'm not going to shoot a pursuit hound.  I AM going to shoot EVERY transient stray dog that I see that's harassing wildlife in my neck of the woods, as I have done for years.  I wish WDFW would still buy my ammo...........

[PolarBear]

 

[bearpaw]

I disagree.  I'm in the field all the time and I have seen deer being chased by dogs.  It sucks that the owners don't break their dogs to deer, but that's life...and lots of things suck in life that we have to deal with.  My rationale to the whole wildlife harassment by dogs argument has to do with my hunting dogs (bird dogs and hounds) that chase wildlife and harass them for a job.  What's to stop some d-bag from shooting my hounds off a tree with a lion or a coon in it?  I like my dogs, I try to keep them straight, but even with proper training and shock collars ect. dogs will sometimes trash on game.  If someone shot my dog (no matter what it was chasing (excluding livestock)) they would have a fight on their hands right then and there.   

I have to agree with WAcoyotehunter. Our good hounds are worth $5000+ and hard to replace even at that price. If someone destroys something of yours that is worth that much, wouldn't you want to do something about it. People have a tendancy to see a dog in the woods and assume it's chasing deer, what if it's actually on a cougar track or chasing coons? WAcoyotehunter is also correct that it is illegal to shoot dogs unless they are destroying your property. There is also a law on the books making it illegal to shoot dogs.

Another point some of you are missing is that some shed hunters have dogs trained to find horns, it works great. Now imagine if you shoot that guys dog.... 

[grundy53]

I disagree.  I'm in the field all the time and I have seen deer being chased by dogs.  It sucks that the owners don't break their dogs to deer, but that's life...and lots of things suck in life that we have to deal with.  My rationale to the whole wildlife harassment by dogs argument has to do with my hunting dogs (bird dogs and hounds) that chase wildlife and harass them for a job.  What's to stop some d-bag from shooting my hounds off a tree with a lion or a coon in it?  I like my dogs, I try to keep them straight, but even with proper training and shock collars ect. dogs will sometimes trash on game.  If someone shot my dog (no matter what it was chasing (excluding livestock)) they would have a fight on their hands right then and there.   

I have to agree with WAcoyotehunter. Our good hounds are worth $5000+ and hard to replace even at that price. If someone destroys something of yours that is worth that much, wouldn't you want to do something about it. People have a tendancy to see a dog in the woods and assume it's chasing deer, what if it's actually on a cougar track or chasing coons? WAcoyotehunter is also correct that it is illegal to shoot dogs unless they are destroying your property. There is also a law on the books making it illegal to shoot dogs.

Another point some of you are missing is that some shed hunters have dogs trained to find horns, it works great. Now imagine if you shoot that guys dog.... 

I'm not advocating going around shooting dogs in the woods. I'm talking about when you catch a dog actively persuing a deer or elk. I.E it's right on the deers ass running it down. In my opinion it is not the shooter who is to blame then but the dog owner. Also you guy's bring up that it's illegal to shoot a dog well it's also illegal to let your dog chase deer or elk. I happen to love dogs and would not take any pleasure in doing it but i would feel that i had to do it. just my 

[shedcrazy]

How many of you are on the wetside?? Their must be a big problem with dogs chasing around the blacktails???

[grundy53]

How many of you are on the wetside?? Their must be a big problem with dogs chasing around the blacktails???

I am but i hunt both sides and my free time is split between my hunting grounds over here and over there.

[huntnnw]

if a dog is chasing deer, elk or moose u can kill it!

[shedcrazy]

  Ok the dog issue is getting old, next!!

[huntnnw]

whats funny is people get all riled up over shed hunters, what about all the other user groups that play in the outdoors? they have no clue. If your going to stop shed hunters, better tell people they cant sno shoe, hike,cross country ski, snomobile etc

[Lowedog]

if a dog is chasing deer, elk or moose u can kill it!

Just in case you missed these posts....

quote author=HardCorpsHuntr link=topic=64919.msg824660#msg824660 date=1294376235]

I'd like to give a serious warning to all who speak of shooting dogs chasing deer. I have had this problem while hunting my own land. I shot a dog chasing deer on my very own property in 2006. The dog and owner were trespassing. I still got in serious trouble. I was charged with 1st degree animal cruelty, a felony charge in superior court. I got convicted of 2nd degree animal cruelty. At least that was a mistameaner. Also cost me about $7,000 for lawyer and fines. Plus I lost hunting rights for two years. It was bulls**t, but apperantly against the law. I'm finally off probation and got my right to hunt restored, but trust me you dont want to find yourself in my situation. Call animal control authorities is all I could recommend. On a lighter note I have already picked up 12 fresh whitetail sheds this season!

Where was your "throw down chicken" ?

RCW 16.08.020
Dogs injuring stock may be killed.

It shall be lawful for any person who shall see any dog or dogs chasing, biting, injuring or killing any sheep, swine or other domestic animal, including poultry, belonging to such person, on any real property owned or leased by, or under the control of, such person, or on any public highway, to kill such dog or dogs, and it shall be the duty of the owner or keeper of any dog or dogs so found chasing, biting or injuring any domestic animal, including poultry, upon being notified of that fact by the owner of such domestic animals or poultry, to thereafter keep such dog or dogs in leash or confined upon the premises of the owner or keeper thereof, and in case any such owner or keeper of a dog or dogs shall fail or neglect to comply with the provisions of this section, it shall be lawful for the owner of such domestic animals or poultry to kill such dog or dogs found running at large.
 
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whats funny is people get all riled up over shed hunters, what about all the other user groups that play in the outdoors? they have no clue. If your going to stop shed hunters, better tell people they cant sno shoe, hike,cross country ski, snomobile etc

I think some areas need to be closed to snowmobiles but I agree you can't keep every body off of public land.  I run into a lot of people who are just out hiking. 

I got one of my best sets from a guy I met on the hill.  He had this big set in his hands and said he just stumbled across them and never knew deer shed their antlers.  I offered him $20 and he laughed and said I should have offered $5!