huskemaw BC turrents

[hoosier85]

I like how the huskemaw scopes have the turrets that are already set up for the rig. Is there any other routes a shooter can go instead of spending so much money. Could a shooter buy a scope say a Nikon and upgrade to the right turrets. shoot and set the turrets on your absolute zero? Does this make sense? I have heard of shooters taking the turrets off and sanding them and using a paint marker to set up yardage marks for quick in the field adjustments.


Hoosier

[carpsniperg2]

Leupold was running a deal, that with purchase of one of there scopes. "not sure which one" you got 2 free turrets. Another thing is, a lot of scopes out there have target turrets on them. If a guy can spend some serious time at the range. You can learn what marks on the turrets shoot for what ranges.

[MtnMuley]

Yes, hoosier.  You can buy many different brands of scopes and install turrets on them from the same or different manufacturers.  In essence -- the same general theory and principle of the Huskemaw scopes.

[MDGrand]

Nikon sells a kit for almost all their scopes. Difference for Huskemaw is that they come with 1/3 MOA adjustments. Most other manufacturers do 1/4 or 1/8.

[lewy]

If you shoot your rifle and desired laods out to your desired distance (has to be practical) and send your information and scope in to leupold they will build you a turret for about 150 bucks.

[rbros]

You would be better off buying a scope and having an elevation turret installed using MOA adjustments instead of a BDC.   A Leupold will cost you less and will be a reliable scope for less money.  Make a drop chart and dial for each shot.  Using MOA instead of a BDC dial will allow you to adjust for different elevation, temp, etc.  BDC dials are great if you are only going to shoot in one location with consistent variables (temp, humidity, baro pressure).

[Jamieb]

Personally I think the Huskemaw is a way over priced scope, ideal for a guy with a lot of money that's too lazy to put in the time and effort to shoot a drop chart.
I've shot with a guy that taped a piece of paper around a tall target turret and wrote hash marks with the yards, put another layer of clear tape over it, seemed to work well for him.
Most scopes wont get you from a 100yard or even a 200 yard zero to 1000 yards in one revaluation of a turret, that's why the huskemaw's are 1/3 moa clicks.
I've been running M-1's sense leupold first made them available and prefer them to all the others I've played with. M-1's and a confirmed drop chart taped to my stock has been working just fine for me and a lot of other folks.
Another big downside (at least in my opinion) to the huskema is like any other scope with a BDC turret, it's stuck on one rifle with one load and it wont work on any other rifle.

[bearpaw]

Great Thread....

I bought a set of turrets a while back for one of my rifles but can't find them anymore now. Does anyone know where to get turrets?

I also have a small piece of paper taped to the stock of my rifle with holdover for yardages out to 600. Works great to have that.

[Jamieb]

If your looking for stoney points Midway sells them.

[bearpaw]

thats exactly what I was looking for, couldn't remember the name, thanx a million....

[Jamieb]

It's been a while sense this video was posted on here.
On another board I post on a few guys said they dont have time to use turrets in a huntiing situation so I made this to show it doesnt take a lot of time and is pretty easy.

[Jamieb]

Turn your sound up and listen for the hit after I start getting up.
In full screen you can see the vapor trail.

[MtnMuley]

Personally I think the Huskemaw is a way over priced scope, ideal for a guy with a lot of money that's too lazy to put in the time and effort to shoot a drop chart.

I, along with several others, have put in twice the time on our Huskemaw scopes as we've ever put in any Leupold -- with far better success wen shooting many temperatures and elevations.

Another big downside (at least in my opinion) to the huskema is like any other scope with a BDC turret, it's stuck on one rifle with one load and it wont work on any other rifle.

Buy another $99 turret and put in on a different rifle.  That's a lot cheaper than buying a new scope.  I believe you get two free now-a-days when you buy one also.

[rbros]

Always amazed that guys say it takes to long.  In Tactical competitions, we are adjusting between shots under time and can go very quick.  Often times, laying down, ranging and dialing is measured in seconds, not minutes.

[Jamieb]

MtnMuley
Didnt mean to offend anyone, just posted my opinion.
while I've used stoney points until I got around to sending in a scope to get real turrets installed, I'd never think of them as a permanent turret.

[rbros]

Personally I think the Huskemaw is a way over priced scope, ideal for a guy with a lot of money that's too lazy to put in the time and effort to shoot a drop chart.

I, along with several others, have put in twice the time on our Huskemaw scopes as we've ever put in any Leupold -- with far better success wen shooting many temperatures and elevations.

Another big downside (at least in my opinion) to the huskema is like any other scope with a BDC turret, it's stuck on one rifle with one load and it wont work on any other rifle.

Buy another $99 turret and put in on a different rifle.  That's a lot cheaper than buying a new scope.  I believe you get two free now-a-days when you buy one also.

BDC's work well if you plan to stay at one elevation or a small range of elevations with a small temperature range window.  If you hunt multiple states, chances are you will need several $99 turrets to adjust for the changing conditions.  I prefer to use my pda and an MOA dial.  This allows me to adjust for conditions where ever I am and make precise hits.  To each his own, for my use I would have to buy alot more turrets for all the changing conditions we shoot in.

[bearpaw]

nice shooting in the video jamieb... I can see you have done some long range shooting...  

[Jamieb]

I'm sitting here at the computer bad mouthing the huskemaw scope but in all fairness, I've never used one.
I just cant see where the huskemaw ican be that much better to justify spending that much more then I would on a leupold with turrets.

[BULLBLASTER]

i had kenton industries make a turret for my burris fullfield scope. while talking to him he told me at practical ranges, out to 700 yards. that it will work right in the conditions specified, and to add a click or two in colder temp or lower elevation and take away a click or two in warmer or higher elevation. so far it seems right on with the shooting i have done. killed a bear at 490 and an elk at 430 this year.
i was only looking for a 550 -600 yard rifle though. and that is what i have.

[high country]

i had kenton industries make a turret for my burris fullfield scope. while talking to him he told me at practical ranges, out to 700 yards. that it will work right in the conditions specified, and to add a click or two in colder temp or lower elevation and take away a click or two in warmer or higher elevation. so far it seems right on with the shooting i have done. killed a bear at 490 and an elk at 430 this year.
i was only looking for a 550 -600 yard rifle though. and that is what i have.

I had mark build me a cam for my m3 back in the day. it worked to minute of deer out to at least 700yds on a .5 moa 300 RUM. nowdays I do like rbros and click for corrections.

[MtnMuley]

No offense taken Jamieb.  I just had to stick  up for a scope I believe in, as it was getting beat up pretty bad.   I'm not impressed with many things I hear about gunwerks and the huskemaw scope as a whole, but definately impressed with the scopes performance after putting in many hours of shooting.  I acutally prefer to leave the moa turret on mine and make reference cards for different elevations and temps.

[hoosier85]

No offense taken Jamieb.  I just had to stick  up for a scope I believe in, as it was getting beat up pretty bad.   I'm not impressed with many things I hear about gunwerks and the huskemaw scope as a whole, but definately impressed with the scopes performance after putting in many hours of shooting.  I acutally prefer to leave the moa turret on mine and make reference cards for different elevations and temps.

I have ok refrence cards from nikon on there site for my BDC scopes, but I bet others like myself would love to know where you could find this kind of info on elevation and temps to calculate and make there own refrence cards. I am very comfortable with my rifles but having full confidence is even better. 

[Alan K]

When I was in the market for a new scope this past summer I was at Sportsman's in Lacey and looked through the Huskemaw. . . I thought it was pretty dark in comparison to other scopes.  I did like the 5-25 power range or whatever it had though. 

I ended up going with a Leupold VX-7 3.5-14x40.  Absolutely love it!  I also just started getting into reloading, and without being set on a round and hunting anywhere from 500-7000 ft elevation every year, I wanted a scope with MOA adjustments.  I cringed at the thought of having to buy a new turret to be accurate with new loads or in different locations.  I just print out a new chart for the area/weather/load I'll be using the rifle in, and it works like a charm!

[Alan K]

I bet others like myself would love to know where you could find this kind of info on elevation and temps to calculate and make there own refrence cards.

I use Google Earth to come up with an average elevation for the area I'll be hunting.  As for temperature, I just look at the forecast as far out as I can before I leave for my hunt to decide on what temperature to enter into the program which makes my charts.

[rbros]

I carry a Kestrel and my GPS will give me station pressure where I am standing at the moment.  Those two items allow me to plug all the info into my pda and spits out a number.  I do have backup sheets that I made at home based on a google earth elevation.  I haven't ever had to use them yet, but always have them for a backup just incase my pda fails.

[high country]

I would be more worried about learning how to read the breeze then being off .5moa on a 700 yard poke. ele will still be minute of deer lungs, but windage is what will get ya.

[MtnMuley]

I would be more worried about learning how to read the breeze then being off .5moa on a 700 yard poke. ele will still be minute of deer lungs, but windage is what will get ya.

You're 100% correct.  That's my main challenge in LR shooting  --  if I take the shot or not.

hoosier, I use Huskemaws website for all of my technical needs.  I've found another good ballistic info site to be: biggameinfo.com

[rbros]

Yup, wind is where most guys go wrong.  Elevation is generally close, but it takes alot of shooting in different conditions to be able to read wind.

[Jamieb]

Wind as a bitch.
I do most of my practice shooting in the wind but I still suck at judging the wind, in the mountains the wind is so vairiable across long range that it really makes it tough.

[Jamieb]

I use a video camera when I shoot solo to spot my hit/misses.
After a shot I review it on the video camera screen.
In the summer misses show up real well in dirt.

[Jamieb]

In this one I'm shooting a couple of rifles but most of it was my 300 rum that I had just bedded/floated.
the POI change from a cold shot to a hot barrel shot went away.
I leaned some steel up on a dirt bank, the first shot I put high to see if the dirt would fly enough to spot misses.

[gadwall]

Wind as a bitch.
I do most of my practice shooting in the wind but I still suck at judging the wind, in the mountains the wind is so vairiable across long range that it really makes it tough.

Exactly.
I have the good fortune to shoot alot right here at my home out to 8-900 yds if I want.  I have seen 5-10 mph changes in wind speed between the muzzle and the target some days.

[buckhorn2]

I have turrent tops on several of our guns and I ordered them from leupold and put them on myself and then went out and shot them out to 1000 yards at known distances and taped the ranges and adjustments on the side of my rifles. We use 4.5x14 and 6.5 to 20 leupold scopes in 50 millimeters and have had great results by just haveing them mail me the turrnet tops.