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Offline Kain

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Patrick Hayes Screw with the food chain and you get morons like Nathan....

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Naithan Kain Typical. Cant participate in a debate with science and facts you turn to name calling and insults. Sad.

The purpose of the WDFW's is to manage wildlife. If one species becomes overly populated and becomes a detriment to other wildlife it is their JOB to manage that species. Instead they will chase away hunters and fishers by reducing opportunity while increasing the cost to make up for the short fall. Unfortunately this will not fix anything that is actually CAUSING the declining populations, which is predators and netting.


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Yer a moron Kain.  :chuckle:

Nice work!!!!  :)

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Yer a moron Kain.  :chuckle:

Nice work!!!!  :)

Must be true because its not the first time I have heard that.   :chuckle:

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It's impossible to reason with them kinds.. but ya never know maybe it'll make a difference somewhere down the road. good for you Kain I would end up loosing my temper with them. They would rather see sturgeon go on the endangered species list, they use the sealion just like the wolf to bring numbers down to un-harvestable levels  :bash:
NATURE HAS A WAY

"All good things must come to an end"

SEARCHING FOR TRUTH, SEARCHING FOR PURITY, something that doesn't really exist anymore..

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Good job not snoopin down to his level Kain. I'm not sure I wouldn't have made a few personal jabs myself at that guy.  

That guy was inspired by OBAMA.. Need I say more.

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It's impossible to reason with them kinds.. but ya never know maybe it'll make a difference somewhere down the road. good for you Kain I would end up loosing my temper with them. They would rather see sturgeon go on the endangered species list, they use the sealion just like the wolf to bring numbers down to un-harvestable levels  :bash:

Thanks.  I leave the comments more as a way to communicate with the WDFW than to change any anti's minds.  I know they are reading them because they delete some posts.  If we all leave comments and show the numbers it might make a difference.  Dont threaten, call names, lie or exaggerate and you can win almost all of these debates.  Ridicule all you want though.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Thanks Kain , Capitol Press recently had an article about research on sea-lion predation on sturgeon in the Columbia river, I was amazed at the high percentage.

Dec. 6 th Capital Press



"We don't have the tools to make an accurate estimate," said Cindy LeFleur, Columbia River policy coordinator for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. "We know what we see happening at Bonneville Dam. We feel 10,600 is a reasonable number to put in our sturgeon population model to account for predation riverwide and across all age classes."

That estimate includes about 750 oversize sturgeon, the spawning portion of the population.

LeFleur first unveiled the 10,600 figure at the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission meeting Friday in Olympia and reiterated it Monday night at a joint Washington-Oregon sturgeon meeting in Longview.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has been observing marine mammal predation on spring chinook and sturgeon in the Columbia immediately downstream of Bonneville Dam since 2005.

Predation by sea lions at the dam has jumped from an estimated 413 in 2006 to 2,172 in 2010.

"Sea lion predation has been increasing (at Bonneville)," she said. "Both the total catch and catch per hour have been increasing basically since 2006."

Oregon's draft Lower Columbia White Sturgeon Conservation Plan, more than in year in preparation, estimates marine mammal predation at 6,700 sturgeon and increasing to 10,600 next year, said Brad James, Washington's sturgeon program manager.  
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That is good info.  I dont fish much so I am not up on all the number so this helps.  I will post this over there so it gets spread to more people.

 


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